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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Further to the previous discussion, here are 7 screenshots for ToriOS's
menu:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113578220061772446187/113578220061772446187/posts/6dh9aLewBLR
https://www.facebook.com/ToriOS.Official/posts/1663029507124050
https://twitter.com/ToriOS_Official/status/1000714643327733760
https://twitter.com/ToriOS_Official/status/1000714778573074432

If we shall build ToriOS.web, these entries in the menu must be reduced to
the very minimum. This is way too much for a system like ToriOS. I think
these entries are even more than what Ubuntu MATE has on its default menus.
This is not what ToriOS is all about. We need to re-design our system and
it's time to make it even better. Everyone knows the first version won't be
as good as the later ones. So, it's the right time to learn from our
mistakes (if any) and improve what we already have!


I've sent:
https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01559.html

Once I get what I need, I'll send another email with a proposed list for
ToriOS.web!



On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 05/22/2018 03:40 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I've been thinking for sometime now .. the deep and core idea of ToriOS
>> project is to offer the minimal working system with GUI for users with very
>> old machines. Your definition of "old machines" may vary and be different
>> though but that should not disagree with the fact that ToriOS is actually
>> designed mainly for old computers and it can also be installed on a new
>> machine.
>>
>> Giving the fact that ToriOS has the minimal set of software/packages, it
>> made me think about:
>>
>> Why not we offer A NEW SPIN/VERSION for the web?
>>
>> Allow me to elaborate.
>> Many basic or light users are only using their machines for browsing the
>> web, sending emails, Google Drive maybe, YouTube, Facebook, etc. That said,
>> how about we give them ToriOS with a NEW flavour? a flavour that's designed
>> ONLY for websites?
>>
>> What could help is: we don't have to include ANY extra package. Only the
>> MAIN and the most important packages that will make ToriOS works + one main
>> browser (*we can vote for that or ask the community to vote to choose
>> their favourite browser*) + a list of browsers the users can choose from
>> to install right after they install ToriOS successfully on their machines.
>> Nothing else, nothing more.
>>
>> An OS designed for old machines to make them a web-browsing-machines.
>> That's all.
>>
>> As you know, the problem nowadays is:
>> Websites are more resource hungry. They need more machine power to work.
>> If we can reduce the effort that a machine can put on its OS, we'll save
>> some extra power/resource for the website. Yes, let's be super honest here
>> .. I am NOT talking about a machine with 256MB of RAM as these machines
>> can't even handle Google homepage. I'm talking about a bit more powerful
>> machines. A machine that can handle popular websites.
>>
>> Maybe ToriOS.web won't be purely for old machines. It will be only for a
>> machine that will be used as a web browser, period. Nothing more and
>> nothing else.
>>
>> If someone needs to use ToriOS for multi purposes, then he/she can simply
>> use ToriOS, the original and the main flavour.
>>
>> If someone needs only a web browsing machine, ToriOS.web will be the best
>> option. He/She doesn't have to worry about ant-virus and crap like that.
>> They're already using the most powerful anti-virus in the world, that's the
>> Linux kernel.
>>
>> I'm going to share this on our media channels. Let's see what our users
>> think about this.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for your feedback.
>>
>> It would be great if we can find someone who is interested in this idea,
>> jump in and help to make it happen. That would be amazing :D
>>
>> Thank you and keep up the great spirit!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ali,
>>
>
> Hi Israel, Nio and everyone else,
>
>
>
>> So, I think you do mean a kiosk (like Nio asked).
>>
>
> No.
>
> I'll explain ...
>
>
>> This is a good idea, and would be pretty easy.
>>
>
> If truth to be told, I'm trying to attract 'more' users and make ToriOS
> more popular and widely used.
>
>
>>   The one issue I see, is that the user could not download files and use
>> them outside of their own computer without technical expertise.  They could
>> not mount their phone and transfer files either.
>>
>> Without a panel up top (or on bottom), it would be hard to perform
>> something basic like the network connection management, unless they are
>> using a wired connection.
>>
>> Then there would also be no window management, if it was 'just a web
>> browser' so you could not open a new window for web pages.
>>
>
> No.
> ToriOS.web = ToriOS (the one that we all know) - ALL the other software
> and packages EXCEPT the essential ones (File Manager, Window Manager, etc)
> + Web Browser(s).
>
> No office software for example. A fully working OS with GUI that is purely
> designed for web browsing AND other tasks/uses IF and ONLY IF the user
> desires that.
>
> Example:
> ToriOS.web will be shipped with the main packages that makes ToriOS a
> ToriOS system (the base packages, like File Manager) + a web browser or
> more than just one browser.
>
> The very same concept of ToriOS.
> Same ToriOS philosophy: give our user the choice to build their own system
> the way they want from a fully working base OS with GUI.
>
> The main difference is:
> ToriOS.web will be shipped with one extra package/software, that's a web
> browser + a list of other browsers that users can choose to install if they
> want.
>
> I'm not sure if this is clear enough?
>
>
>> I do like the idea, and we could ship a smaller version of ToriOS which
>> is not customizable via the GUI, has no extra Apps, and has only 2 buttons,
>> no extra desktops and would automatically start the web browser in
>> fullscreen mode/or whatever.
>>
> It should look and feel exactly the same as the current ToriOS (the one we
> all know) but with less packages/software AND designed for web browsing as
> the main task.
>
>
>
>> I think this is an idea that would take a lot of consideration
>>
>
> This flavour (ToriOS.web) will be a great choice for those who focus on
> the web. I know so many users who do nothing except web browsing, facebook,
> youtube, etc.
>
> Why give them extra packages or software that won't be used anyway?
>
>
>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>>
> If my answer is not yet clear, please let me know and I'll be more than
> happy to explain further!
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>



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Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>