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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 05/22/2018 03:40 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I've been thinking for sometime now .. the deep and core idea of ToriOS
> project is to offer the minimal working system with GUI for users with very
> old machines. Your definition of "old machines" may vary and be different
> though but that should not disagree with the fact that ToriOS is actually
> designed mainly for old computers and it can also be installed on a new
> machine.
>
> Giving the fact that ToriOS has the minimal set of software/packages, it
> made me think about:
>
> Why not we offer A NEW SPIN/VERSION for the web?
>
> Allow me to elaborate.
> Many basic or light users are only using their machines for browsing the
> web, sending emails, Google Drive maybe, YouTube, Facebook, etc. That said,
> how about we give them ToriOS with a NEW flavour? a flavour that's designed
> ONLY for websites?
>
> What could help is: we don't have to include ANY extra package. Only the
> MAIN and the most important packages that will make ToriOS works + one main
> browser (*we can vote for that or ask the community to vote to choose
> their favourite browser*) + a list of browsers the users can choose from
> to install right after they install ToriOS successfully on their machines.
> Nothing else, nothing more.
>
> An OS designed for old machines to make them a web-browsing-machines.
> That's all.
>
> As you know, the problem nowadays is:
> Websites are more resource hungry. They need more machine power to work.
> If we can reduce the effort that a machine can put on its OS, we'll save
> some extra power/resource for the website. Yes, let's be super honest here
> .. I am NOT talking about a machine with 256MB of RAM as these machines
> can't even handle Google homepage. I'm talking about a bit more powerful
> machines. A machine that can handle popular websites.
>
> Maybe ToriOS.web won't be purely for old machines. It will be only for a
> machine that will be used as a web browser, period. Nothing more and
> nothing else.
>
> If someone needs to use ToriOS for multi purposes, then he/she can simply
> use ToriOS, the original and the main flavour.
>
> If someone needs only a web browsing machine, ToriOS.web will be the best
> option. He/She doesn't have to worry about ant-virus and crap like that.
> They're already using the most powerful anti-virus in the world, that's the
> Linux kernel.
>
> I'm going to share this on our media channels. Let's see what our users
> think about this.
>
> Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for your feedback.
>
> It would be great if we can find someone who is interested in this idea,
> jump in and help to make it happen. That would be amazing :D
>
> Thank you and keep up the great spirit!
>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>
>
> Hi Ali,
>

Hi Israel, Nio and everyone else,



> So, I think you do mean a kiosk (like Nio asked).
>

No.

I'll explain ...


> This is a good idea, and would be pretty easy.
>

If truth to be told, I'm trying to attract 'more' users and make ToriOS
more popular and widely used.


>   The one issue I see, is that the user could not download files and use
> them outside of their own computer without technical expertise.  They could
> not mount their phone and transfer files either.
>
> Without a panel up top (or on bottom), it would be hard to perform
> something basic like the network connection management, unless they are
> using a wired connection.
>
> Then there would also be no window management, if it was 'just a web
> browser' so you could not open a new window for web pages.
>

No.
ToriOS.web = ToriOS (the one that we all know) - ALL the other software and
packages EXCEPT the essential ones (File Manager, Window Manager, etc) +
Web Browser(s).

No office software for example. A fully working OS with GUI that is purely
designed for web browsing AND other tasks/uses IF and ONLY IF the user
desires that.

Example:
ToriOS.web will be shipped with the main packages that makes ToriOS a
ToriOS system (the base packages, like File Manager) + a web browser or
more than just one browser.

The very same concept of ToriOS.
Same ToriOS philosophy: give our user the choice to build their own system
the way they want from a fully working base OS with GUI.

The main difference is:
ToriOS.web will be shipped with one extra package/software, that's a web
browser + a list of other browsers that users can choose to install if they
want.

I'm not sure if this is clear enough?


> I do like the idea, and we could ship a smaller version of ToriOS which is
> not customizable via the GUI, has no extra Apps, and has only 2 buttons, no
> extra desktops and would automatically start the web browser in fullscreen
> mode/or whatever.
>
It should look and feel exactly the same as the current ToriOS (the one we
all know) but with less packages/software AND designed for web browsing as
the main task.



> I think this is an idea that would take a lot of consideration
>

This flavour (ToriOS.web) will be a great choice for those who focus on the
web. I know so many users who do nothing except web browsing, facebook,
youtube, etc.

Why give them extra packages or software that won't be used anyway?



> --
> Regards
>
>
If my answer is not yet clear, please let me know and I'll be more than
happy to explain further!

Thank you!

-- 
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>