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Message #33791
[Bug 1392699] [NEW] Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
Public bug reported:
A. Try to use US English, but with all apps using 24-hour instead of 12-hour time. Or:
B. Try to use UK English, but with all apps using YYYY-MM-DD date format.
What happens: You can't.
What should happen: You can.
Since Ubuntu has existed, it has used the GNU locale system. This system
assumes that every single person using a particular locale wants exactly
the same settings for time display, date display, currency display,
alphabetizing, and number formatting.
<http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Effects-of-
Locale.html>
Windows, Mac OS, and (to a lesser extent) iOS have always been more
flexible: setting a locale sets appropriate defaults for these settings,
but you can also change them individually. Ubuntu should do the same.
This might involve changing the locale system itself, or it might
involve changing all relevant toolkits so that they ignore the locale
system when appropriate.
It would also involve adding settings in System Settings to customize
the individual locale details.
** Affects: libc (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Affects: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Affects: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Also affects: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Also affects: libc (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1392699
Title:
Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date
format) independently
Status in “libc” package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in “ubuntu-system-settings” package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in “ubuntu-ui-toolkit” package in Ubuntu:
New
Bug description:
A. Try to use US English, but with all apps using 24-hour instead of 12-hour time. Or:
B. Try to use UK English, but with all apps using YYYY-MM-DD date format.
What happens: You can't.
What should happen: You can.
Since Ubuntu has existed, it has used the GNU locale system. This
system assumes that every single person using a particular locale
wants exactly the same settings for time display, date display,
currency display, alphabetizing, and number formatting.
<http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Effects-of-
Locale.html>
Windows, Mac OS, and (to a lesser extent) iOS have always been more
flexible: setting a locale sets appropriate defaults for these
settings, but you can also change them individually. Ubuntu should do
the same.
This might involve changing the locale system itself, or it might
involve changing all relevant toolkits so that they ignore the locale
system when appropriate.
It would also involve adding settings in System Settings to customize
the individual locale details.
To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libc/+bug/1392699/+subscriptions
Follow ups
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement, 2015-11-26
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Pat McGowan, 2015-10-16
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Magdalena Mirowicz, 2015-07-22
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Matthew Paul Thomas, 2015-07-22
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: John McAleely, 2015-07-17
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: John McAleely, 2015-07-17
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson, 2015-06-03
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Alexey Dokuchaev, 2015-06-03
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson, 2015-05-19
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Matthew Paul Thomas, 2015-05-19
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: FransSchreuder, 2015-04-17
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Launchpad Bug Tracker, 2014-11-17
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Christian Dywan, 2014-11-17
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Michał Sawicz, 2014-11-14
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Matthew Paul Thomas, 2014-11-14
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[Bug 1392699] Re: Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Michał Sawicz, 2014-11-14
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[Bug 1392699] [NEW] Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently
From: Matthew Paul Thomas, 2014-11-14
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