ubuntu-eg-council team mailing list archive

[Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ahmed Shams <ahmedkhattabshams@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

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> On 24 March 2012 04:03, Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Hi guys,
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>> I tried launchpad python api, and I tried the following:
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>> 1. I created a new team on launchpad. (ubuntu-eg-test)
>> 2. Added asham to the team.
>> 3. Was able to set expiration date on both ubuntu-eg and ubuntu-eg-test
>> members.
>>
>> This gives us both options to set expiration date for all members or move
>> them to a new team.
>>
>> Just filling you in ya Shams cause you didn't attend the meeting. We were
>> talking about how ubuntu-eg team is becoming really useless, and one use
>> for it was to add official members when they get approved.
>>
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> Thanks for heads up.
> Well, it's not very useless 3ala fekra, it's our body :D people should
> find it very easy to join and get *belonging* to us. If we depend on
> persons to work so they get membership we'll fade out, cuz this kind of
> activism is new to our society, I think ppl need to spend months around
> before they're potentially active.
> So, what if we make ppl at ~ubuntu-eg are ueg members and ppl on
> ~ubuntu-eg-core are those flame active persons with membership status. So,
> we this way mesh hane7rem elnas men el-easy belonging feature, I weigh it
> the same as *welcomness* virtue we have in Ubuntu community..
>


How is that different from moving the current ubuntu-eg members to a new
group and make ubuntu-eg ? I don't agree that it's our body. Nothing is
really done after someone joins this group. We have never sent a single
email to the group members.

And about the welcomeness part. Part are more than welcomed to join FGs.
And all our channels of course.

Please elaborate more if I didn't understand you.


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>> But the problem was that we can't set expiration date for everyone and we
>> can't move members from this team to another (from launchpad interface).
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>> So now the proposed solutions are:
>> 1. Set default expiration date say (6 month and send an email asking
>> people to be active). This way we will not create any new teams and
>> ubuntu-eg will have only official member when default expiration date comes.
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> I think, we need to set expiration date anyway, to 6m or 12, it's good,
> and it's only to help persons remember about their membership and let's
> hope they will interact soon.
>

Tried that :) People just get deactivated :( And soon we will have them all
deactivated. We choose to do this then we will have the group empty and
only those with membership status will remain. And that's what option 1 is
all about. Set expiration date, those who are not interested will get
expired soon.


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>> 2. Create a new team say ubuntu-eg-proposed, move all current ubuntu-eg
>> members to it and send them an email to encourage them to work. When they
>> apply for membership they will get moved to ubuntu-eg
>>
>> Again we don't necessarily have to solve this, but really ubuntu-eg is
>> useless IMO.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ahmed Toulan.
>>
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>> Ya Toulan, this, IMO, is not needed, frankly, I think it'll harm because
> we will lose the team's body this way.
> Ubuntu-eg seems useless cuz, IMO, we name the ubutnu-eg membership
> membership. What about making that membership 'Core' members or so, so ppl
> on ~ubuntu-eg are members but they're waiting to find the chance to
> activate themselves somehow. But touching ~ubuntu-eg this way won't make
> any good.
> Tayb, I know that ~ubuntu-eg looks useless, so beside changing the new
> membership idea's name to Core members will fix one part, IMHO, and the
> rest can be fixed by fully integrating the launchpad team with the website.
> We can even embed the lp registration(login.launchpad.net) page into a
> 'Joining' Page on our website and that page redirects to
> launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-eg/+join then to the ML subscribing page.
>

We are already using Launchpad OpenID for login. But how does that solve
ubuntu-eg current status ? Of course the idea of creating a new team for
official is the first to come in mind, but what do the number of members in
ubuntu-eg represent ? Nothing if you ask, if anything it means they are
mostly fans.

Again we don't really have to do anything it's just a proposal. I was just
mentioning that we have a programmatic solution for the problem.

Best regards,
Ahmed Toulan.