ubuntu-fridge team mailing list archive

["Joey Stanford" <joey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Matthew,

>  >  What are your thoughts with this? Do we really need to keep this
>  >  private?  I haven't seen anything in the last year that requires it.

So I read back through the archive and did find one item, my google
docs invite allowing the editors to edit the Fridge v2 page.  However,
 I could have done this differently so I'm not really fussed about it.


>  I don't think so - I think what we had agreed was that the previous
>  archives of the list would have to be private but that when we move to
>  a new list (news-team or whatever) this could (and should) be public.

Ok.  My personal viewpoint is that we're an public service to the
Ubuntu community who's out put is *very* public.   I very much like to
expose what we do and how we do it.

>
>  I'm not yet clear on the interaction between the
>  fridge-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and ubuntu-frdige@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -

fridge-devel = old, private, hosted at lists.ubuntu.com, manual maintenance.

ubuntu-fridge = new, public, hosted at lists.launchpad.net, membership
is based on the launchpad team

See this page for an overview of the benefits to using Launchpad's
service.   https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

>  Joey can you clarify some of the following points:
>
>  * Does any mail sent to fridge-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx also appear on
>  the launchpad list?

no. They are completely separate lists.

>  * Do all members of the ubuntu-fridge team receive mails sent to the
>  launchpad list?

Yes if they subscribe. Subscription is limited to those in the team.
Subscription allows you to post and receive.  Non-members can read the
archives on
http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-fridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/  for example.

>  * Which are we supposed to use?

fridge-devel = the old and current list. We should continue to use
this for all communications because not everyone is subscribed to the
other list.

ubuntu-fridge = the new proposed list that I would like us to move to
after mailing lists come out of beta.  I've been cross-posting to both
so that everyone (who has chosen to participate) can see and
understand how the new structure will operate.

>  * Which are people wishing to contact the fridge supposed to use?

fridge-devel.

One of the irc topics was to move forward on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuNews

>  * What is the intended relationship between the launchpad list and the
>  news-team list which was supposed to supercede this?

Ultimately we need two lists:  1) one for normal team communications,
2) one for news submissions shared with other groups like UWN

fridge-devel is being used for #1 and cannot be changed without
sacrificing privacy to do #2.
ubuntu-fridge is mean to take over #1 (and thereby sunset fridge-devel).
We still need a list (or submission mechanism) to satisfy #2

>From an implementation stand-point, we want to use ubuntu-fridge
because that is what will be used to provide our access to the Fridge
(I have someone working on the module right now in fact). We can't use
ubuntu-news because that would give everyone access to the Fridge.

What we can do, is make the fridge team (ubuntu-fridge) a member of
https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-news  and make ubuntu-news public.
This would allow everyone on the fridge team to subscribe to the
ubuntu-news public list while having fridge specific conversations on
the fridge list.  Plus, as per the original idea, anyone can join
ubuntu-news and hold various discussions there, submit news if they
are subscribed, etc.


>  Sorry for all the questions but I'm just a bit unsure of how the LP
>  system works.

It's ok, we just released it into official beta yesterday.  :-)