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Ryan Prior wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Lupine <thelupine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   
> > I would have to agree with those that have already mentioned, that
> > promoting WINE for the use of commercial gaming, does not coincide with
> > the above objectives.  If there is a desire to promote "complete
> > gaming", meaning non-FOSS games, then we need to decide to either 1.)
> > change the objectives or 2.) create a different group.  I honestly don't
> > see how any progress can be made until this is clearly defined.
> >     
>
> Similarly to how Ubuntu has a Main, Universe, and Multiverse
> repository, we could have three corresponding components. Games which
> we actively promote and use in our leagues, gaming nights,
> advertising, etc are most carefully tested and curated, and those are
> the Ubuntu-games Main component. Other libre games in our system are
> in the Universe component. Finally, proprietary games supported by
> Wine and native GNU/Linux ports of proprietary games form the
> Multiverse component, and we can use as many notices as are necessary
> to let users know that the Multiverse component hates their freedom.
>
> Just as Ubuntu focuses on libre software but doesn't pretend that the
> occasional need for non-libre software doesn't exist, I think that we
> can fulfill our mission to promote libre games without ignoring the
> (sizable and vocal) segment of our community that enjoys non-libre
> games.
>
> Ryan
>
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The problem with that is, non-libre doesn't equal commercial games. It's 
commercial games that kids want. In essence, what you are outlining is 
that we turn the multiverse in a steam-like system in that users would 
be able to purchase software from the multiverse and if it's a Windows 
binary, it would install and configure Wine for that application.

The problem I have with software like Wine is that it removes all 
support from the product. The game company can give us the middle finger 
when their product doesn't work. And if we go to the Wine devs to see if 
they can fix the bug, they will either push it to the pile of stuff that 
needs to be fixed (then wait weeks, months or years for it to be fixed) 
or say that it's not their problem, it's the companies fault. Meanwhile, 
I'm sitting here with a piece of software that I spent money on that I 
can't use. All for what? Just so I can "enjoy" a new game?

The repos should be house to native titles only.