Re: [Ubuntugnome-qa] Utopic Beta 2 Release Notes

[Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ali,

You missed my point there. My intention was to point out the sad state of the live installer (ubiquity), not to point out the need for more upgrade testing by other testers. I did perform the upgrade tests from Trusty -> Utopic and they passed. I'll more completely address the 'ubiquity' issue in a future reply to Tim and cc the QA list.

While we're on the topic of testing I see that I was once again almost the only tester, someone did perform one additional live image test, and I know you've poured a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into recruiting more testers. I also keep dangling the bait in front of potential testers at the forums with no luck.

But it would be irresponsible to not share my current "real_life" state of affairs. I was hospitalized in March of this year when my Afib got out of control, and in April I had a mild stroke due to a blood clot blocking the blood flow to my brain. Luckily I've regained much of the use of my left arm and leg, but it did slow me down both physically and cognitively.

Things turned a bit worse this month when I went into Vtach which resulted in my first (and hopefully last) helicopter ride to the nearest hospital with a cardiac intensive care unit. Once again I cheated death but one of my new drugs (amiodarone) has produced a tremor that certainly slows me down even further.

My point in sharing that personal info is just to point out the need to recruit new iso/upgrade testers, not that you're not already doing so. As always I appreciate evrything you, Tim, and others do and have done to bring the GNOME DE back to Ubuntu.

Lance

On 09/25/2014 11:12 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

Hello Lance and everyone else,

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I realize the state of the current iso images is beyond our control, at least the upgrade tests passed OK though, but I'm quite serious when I say this;

The Utopic Beta 2 Release notes should simply recommend using the Beta 1 images or upgrading from Trusty (perhaps with a reminder to 'ppa-purge' any PPA's in use). In their current state the images should NOT be used for anything but "entire disc" installs when there is only one disc installed in the machine and the plan is to erase all existing data and OS's on the machine.

While this conversation is about upgrading Beta 1 to Beta 2:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2014-September/005498.html

I still find it - IMHO - more important to do a fresh new installation than upgrading. Yes, I am not suggesting to ignore the 'upgrade' but all what I am stating is: new installation test is a high priority. However, this is what I think :) YMMV.

Two points to keep in mind and this is for everyone:

(1) While it is always good to remind the testers to do an upgrade test from Trusty to Utopic, this should be one of the 'tests' that testers do.

(2) Above all, the Wiki Pages are not strict to Ali, Tim or Ubuntu GNOME Wiki Team :) really, everyone can help and add/update whatever he/she feels good for everyone. Ubuntu GNOME is not my nor Tim nor anyone's project, it is a community project and I highly dislike the fact that only few people are involved. Anyone is more than welcome and invited to play his role. Yes, I know you prefer to stay away from Wiki Pages but this is an open invite to ALL and EVERYONE who wish to add/update anything.

If you can't for whatever reason, send us an email which in your case, you did that already. If you don't want to do that, then don't complain about it. Plain and simple :) again, this is for everyone, not just Lance :)

 

Sorry to come across as a Debbie Downer but those are just the facts as I see them.

We always appreciate your feedback. I don't find it a very high priority because usually, we don't mention that on the Release Notes ... this is something that the QA team do usually. The Release Notes is something else, it is not entirely for the QA team. It is for everyone.

I just logged in and opened my machine. I will prepare the announcement and all .. will mention the upgrade test on the website post ;)

 

Lance

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