Re: [Ubuntugnome-qa] Download page (or release notes) and 14.04.2 HWE

[Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 19/02/15 04:40, Bruce Pieterse wrote:
> On 06/02/2015 01:49, Erick Brunzell wrote:
>> I've just been thinking ...............
>>
>> A lot of Ubuntu Precise users were incredibly dismayed to find out
>> that if they installed Precise with 12.04.2, 12.04.3, or 12.04.4
>> images they ended up in HWE EOL sooner than if they'd installed using
>> the archived 12.04.1 images. There was no mention of HWE or HWE EOL on
>> the Ubuntu downloads page at that time.
>>
>> Now lets forget about Ubuntu and Precise and move onto Ubuntu GNOME
>> and 14.04.2. The general Ubuntu documentation regarding LTS HWE should
>> suffice:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
>>
>>
>> Take note that Ubuntu GNOME Trusty installed with either the 14.04 or
>> 14.04.1 images will be supported throughout April 2017, and do NOT
>> require an HWE upgrade, whereas Ubuntu GNOME Trusty installed with
>> either the 14.04.2, 14.04.3 or 14.04.4 images will only be supported
>> until August 2016 at which point they'd require an HWE upgrade to the
>> 16.04 kernel and Xstack.
>>
>> Confused yet? No page exists for Trusty HWE EOL yet but the procedure
>> will likely be similar to that for Precise:
Yes we should document this on our download page, and hopefully make it less confusing than the official docs!

Tim

>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
>>
>> So I'm slightly tempted to say our download page should make a brief
>> mention of that - something to the effect of:
>>
>> Users not requiring the latest hardware support may wish to use the
>> archived 14.04.1 installation media in order to avoid HWE EOL in
>> August 2016. (with embedded links to HWE info and the archived images)
>>
>> BUT (caps because it's a huge but) both 14.04 and 14.04.1 had a
>> horrific installer bug that resulted in dual/multi-booters losing
>> their Windows installations and data:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192
>>
>> Thankfully that is fixed in 14.04.2.
>>
>> So my personal thoughts = I think I'd rather deal with people being
>> slightly upset over reaching HWE EOL 8 months earlier than Ubuntu
>> GNOME Trusty itself reaches EOL than recommend anyone use the soon to
>> be archived 14.04.1 media because of that nasty installer bug.
>>
>> What does everyone else think?
>>
>> Lance
>>
> Hi Lance,
>
> I'm suprised no one has responded to this yet. I think it is kind of
> important to mention it in the release notes and/or download page.
> Ali/Tim what do you think?
>