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[Ilya Haykinson <haykinson@xxxxxxxxx>]

I was talking about https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/modem.html

<https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/modem.html>It explicitly states
that NetworkManager can't do dialup. Since I can't see any options for
dialup there either, I think it's correct.

Stats-wise, I found that as of 2 years ago, 9% of people in the US were
using dialup. 5% were on dialup in the UK last year. The same percentage in
India. About 10% in China, as of last year. In all cases, these numbers were
gradually dropping. So, I think that while regrettable, it's acceptable to
omit it from documentation.

-ilya

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Benjamin Humphrey <humphreybc@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Ilya, what's the date on the help you looked up? Remember the official
> help documents aren't particularly good... hence why we're around :P
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
> <jipang_menjerit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I think the default network manager can do this job..
> > correct me if I'm wrong
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Ryan Macnish <nisshh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 05:09:33 pm Benjamin Humphrey wrote:
> >> > That's probably a good idea until it gets better dialup support by
> >> > default.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any statistics on the net that show how many people are
> >> > using what type of connection?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Ilya Haykinson <haykinson@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Actually -- I just looked it up in Ubuntu's own help, and it's
> pretty
> >> > > pathetic, but they recommend downloading the gnome-network-admin
> >> > > package
> >> > > on another computer. They also say "Most dialup modems are not
> >> > > supported
> >> > > by Ubuntu, but drivers can be found...<etc>".
> >> > >
> >> > > Please ignore my request. This is just too difficult and I'm
> claiming
> >> > > it
> >> > > to be an unsupported use case. I'll remove the dialup section
> >> > > altogether.
> >> > >
> >> > > -ilya
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Benjamin Humphrey
> >> > > <humphreybc@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> So network manager doesn't support dialup by default?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It would seem a bit silly to force you to download a package from
> the
> >> > >> internet before you can get the internet.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Especially with Ubuntu's emphasis on helping third world countries.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Ryan Macnish <nisshh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:52:25 pm Ilya Haykinson wrote:
> >> > >> >> I don't have a modem, nor a computer with a modem, nor a phone
> >> > >> >> line.
> >> > >> >> I'm
> >> > >> >> hoping that someone who still can use dialup can help document
> the
> >> > >> >> portion
> >> > >> >> of chapter 3 that deals with dialup.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> -ilya
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I can help you a bit with that one:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > You need to install a package called, wvdial in most cases with a
> >> > >> > dialup modem
> >> > >> > and i think most config is done with a tool called pppconfig
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Hope this helps.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Ryan Macnish
> >> > >> >
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> >> I doubt dialup support will get better, iv read that they have been
> >> gradually
> >> dropping support for it.
> >>
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