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[Jim Connett <jimandmarcy@xxxxxxxxx>]

My hope, too, is that there is a resolution on this addition to Dash before
12.10 is officially released.

There are a couple of different paths we can pursue.

If the lens is an opt-in lens, then I don't think it needs to be mentioned
at all. Having it as "opt-in" is sort of like installing a new lens, and we
do not go into a discussion of all the available lenses and their
capabilities.

If the lens is an opt-out lens, then I believe we should mention it
directly in Chapter 2 because a) it will be enabled by default, and b) it
is such a debated addition to this current release. The problem I have is
that search results can yield rather inappropriate content for some users.
My first experiences with the shopping lens results produced cover art on
CDs that were completely inappropriate for me and my family to view. So a
warning block in Chapter 2 to parents of younger Ubuntu users is completely
appropriate, in my opinion.

If the lens has no opt-in or opt-out capability, then it is just that...a
lens, and one that should be mentioned with all the other lenses as an
attribute of the Dash.

The problem with these paths is that we cannot pursue the best one until
the final release of 12.10 at the very latest.

I was really shocked that they included this lens (and, as the above
states, shocked at the results). I originally had a block quote statement
in chapter 2 mentioning the fact that this lens was installed by default
and that it was a new area for Ubuntu that may or may not stick going
forward because of the privacy issues and philosophical contradictions, but
then someone from the Ubuntu Doc project suggested I keep opinions out of
our manual, and I deferred to their experiences (I actually could argue
opinions are rampant in the UMP, but that's another email for another
time). In the interest of keeping the UMP objective, I deleted the block
and simply included the "shopping" lens in the list of lenses iterated in
the description of the Dash.

We'll need to monitor this closely.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn <
lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Op 26-09-12 18:57, Kevin Godby schreef:
>
>  To whomever is writing about the Dash, there will be a UI to disable
>> the inclusion of search results from commercial Canonical partners.
>> Please see <https://bugs.launchpad.net/**bugs/1054746<https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054746>>
>> for more
>> information.
>>
>> --Kevin
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>>  Well, there is a heated debate on this, and rightly so. When I noticed
> this feature in Quantal my first reaction was: have they gone crazy?
> I know we, the manual project, should not give an opinion, but this really
> makes me angry. I do hope they will decide to make this feature an opt-in,
> not an opt-out. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-**
> shopping/+bug/1054776<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054776>
> )
> So, perhaps we should wait until they have made a final decision?
> Hannie
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