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[Kevin Godby <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think the manual should document the default applications instead of
non-default applications. It may be worth mentioning the USC, how to
install it, and why one might want to use it. But generally, the manual
should document the default Ubuntu experience.

—Kevin


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:28 AM Hannie Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hello Miles,
> Thanks for this tip. I installed USC in Xenial (VirtualBox) using Synaptic
> and it works!
> To all:
> Now I am wondering if we (UMP) should advise our readers to install it in
> Xenial. What do you think?
> Hannie
>
> USC was definitely more fleshed out and feature-complete. GNOME Software
> was little more than a toy just a few releases ago and it has no intention
> of becoming a full-blown package manager nor support for-pay items. For
> what it's worth, it looks like the Ubuntu Software Center is still present
> in the repositories, it's just not installed by default. Last change on Feb
> 18th. I guess technically we could stick with it, but it's going away after
> Xenial by the looks of things.
>
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn <
> lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for your reaction on this subject. I agree with Miles
>> (see email below) that it is much better to use Synaptic or apt-get install
>> in the terminal, but since our manual is written for beginners, we should
>> explain the use of Software extensively.
>> Personally I think Ubuntu Software Center is much better than
>> gnome-software. I have no idea why they change this in Xenial, except that
>> perhaps there are not sufficient maintainers for USC to continue with it.
>> Hannie
>>
>>
>>
>> Miles wrote:
>>
>> I'm running the latest updates right now on Xenial and when opening up
>> (GNOME) Software the three tabs present on top are All, Installed, and
>> Updates. All takes you to the "home" page where you can browse the
>> available software, while Installed will show what currently-installed
>> programs you have. The All tab is largely search and category driven,
>> not the kinds of lists most people expect. Probably because Software
>> doesn't purport to be a general-purpose package manager GUI.
>>
>> I'm not yet sure if the Updates tab functions properly on Xenial, but I
>> expect it should.
>>
>> Something that I haven't been able to figure out how to gracefully
>> translate from the Ubuntu Software Center and (GNOME) Software is
>> dealing with the vast majority of packages that contain none of the
>> needed packaging metadata. Software is not a traditional package manager
>> like Synaptic, it is far more app-store oriented. I don't know if
>> Software will ever be the go-to option for finding some library or
>> esoteric package to install, rather if you tell someone to install
>> Amarok, you can know that if they open Software, search for and install
>> Amarok, it will give them what they need in an easy-to-navigate way. As
>> far as I can tell, with the USC gone and Software being so hindered, the
>> terminal is the easiest place to guide people towards.
>>
>> Hope that helps at all! :)
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Miles Sean Robinson
>>
>> On 04/05/2016 02:31 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
>>
>>> While changing text in the manual, section "ubuntu-software-center", I
>>> noticed something strange. In Software (Xenial Beta 1 in Virtual
>>> Machine), when I click the All button at the top of the window, I get
>>> the home page (the same page you get when you start the application
>>> Software. Shouldn't I get a list of all available applications? Is it
>>> a bug?
>>> Can anyone who has installed Xenial in VM confirm that you get the
>>> home page when you click on All?
>>> btw, I have done sudo-apt update and sudo-apt upgrade in Xenial.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hannie
>>>
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