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[Pravin Dhayfule <pravin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I guess the decision of replacing USC with Gnome software may be for either
using a common app across different distros that includes non Ubuntu ones.
It can also be as a response to critics who may have opposed paid and
closed source tools distributed through UCS.
My thoughts though.
Regards
On 06-Apr-2016 10:35 pm, "Kevin Godby" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think the manual should document the default applications instead of
> non-default applications. It may be worth mentioning the USC, how to
> install it, and why one might want to use it. But generally, the manual
> should document the default Ubuntu experience.
>
> —Kevin
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:28 AM Hannie Dumoleyn <
> lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello Miles,
>> Thanks for this tip. I installed USC in Xenial (VirtualBox) using
>> Synaptic and it works!
>> To all:
>> Now I am wondering if we (UMP) should advise our readers to install it in
>> Xenial. What do you think?
>> Hannie
>>
>> USC was definitely more fleshed out and feature-complete. GNOME Software
>> was little more than a toy just a few releases ago and it has no intention
>> of becoming a full-blown package manager nor support for-pay items. For
>> what it's worth, it looks like the Ubuntu Software Center is still present
>> in the repositories, it's just not installed by default. Last change on Feb
>> 18th. I guess technically we could stick with it, but it's going away after
>> Xenial by the looks of things.
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn <
>> lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for your reaction on this subject. I agree with Miles
>>> (see email below) that it is much better to use Synaptic or apt-get install
>>> in the terminal, but since our manual is written for beginners, we should
>>> explain the use of Software extensively.
>>> Personally I think Ubuntu Software Center is much better than
>>> gnome-software. I have no idea why they change this in Xenial, except that
>>> perhaps there are not sufficient maintainers for USC to continue with it.
>>> Hannie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Miles wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm running the latest updates right now on Xenial and when opening up
>>> (GNOME) Software the three tabs present on top are All, Installed, and
>>> Updates. All takes you to the "home" page where you can browse the
>>> available software, while Installed will show what currently-installed
>>> programs you have. The All tab is largely search and category driven,
>>> not the kinds of lists most people expect. Probably because Software
>>> doesn't purport to be a general-purpose package manager GUI.
>>>
>>> I'm not yet sure if the Updates tab functions properly on Xenial, but I
>>> expect it should.
>>>
>>> Something that I haven't been able to figure out how to gracefully
>>> translate from the Ubuntu Software Center and (GNOME) Software is
>>> dealing with the vast majority of packages that contain none of the
>>> needed packaging metadata. Software is not a traditional package manager
>>> like Synaptic, it is far more app-store oriented. I don't know if
>>> Software will ever be the go-to option for finding some library or
>>> esoteric package to install, rather if you tell someone to install
>>> Amarok, you can know that if they open Software, search for and install
>>> Amarok, it will give them what they need in an easy-to-navigate way. As
>>> far as I can tell, with the USC gone and Software being so hindered, the
>>> terminal is the easiest place to guide people towards.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps at all! :)
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Miles Sean Robinson
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2016 02:31 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
>>>
>>>> While changing text in the manual, section "ubuntu-software-center", I
>>>> noticed something strange. In Software (Xenial Beta 1 in Virtual
>>>> Machine), when I click the All button at the top of the window, I get
>>>> the home page (the same page you get when you start the application
>>>> Software. Shouldn't I get a list of all available applications? Is it
>>>> a bug?
>>>> Can anyone who has installed Xenial in VM confirm that you get the
>>>> home page when you click on All?
>>>> btw, I have done sudo-apt update and sudo-apt upgrade in Xenial.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hannie
>>>>
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