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[Dalius <dalius@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Here let me explain what's the problem. With hiragana you get one or
multiple kanji hieroglyphs that are always different. With math you always
get the same set. Now it is unnecessary to search math buttons again and
again when set of them is quite small and almost all of them can be shown.

Still thanks for ideas.

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Dalius


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Finnbar Keating <finnjkeating@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> I think that my second proposal would work quite well, considering the
> success of the Japanese keyboard in iOS (which uses a similar principal to
> give kanji of the same meaning when hiragina is typed in). I think that if
> people feel that it's too confusing, the toolbar could only be activated by
> a shift key, which would mean that it would only allow for special function
> typing when needed, or have a setting for disabling it altogether.
>
> Finnbar
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 3 Mar 2013, at 08:46, Dalius <dalius@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Finnbar,
>
> We have actually tried one of your proposals. That does not work as good
> as we would like. Your second proposal if I get it right might be too
> confusing for user.
>
> Cheers,
> Dalius
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Finnbar Keating <finnjkeating@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I personally think that scientific buttons should be stored on a separate
>> screen which can be revealed with a two-fingered swipe, so for example:
>>
>> Basic screen -swipe-> Buttons such as sqrt, ^x, root x etc.
>>
>> This would allow the user to only use the special functions when
>> required, and keep them out of the way for general use. It could also (or
>> instead) use some sort of swipe up toolbar for extra buttons, so maybe:
>>
>> You type 2.
>> In the toolbar appears: 2 ^2 sqrt sin(2) cos(2) tan(2) and so on...
>> You type another 2.
>> In the toolbar: 22 ^22 22nd root sin(22) and so on.
>> (Note: I'm not actually sure if it's called 22nd root, but what I mean is
>> 22[root sign])
>> You select sin(22).
>> In the toolbar: sin(22) sin^-1(22)
>>
>> I think if this was to be implemented it would have to be optional (so
>> users who don't usually use sqrt etc. don't have to continually tap 22 if
>> they type 22). In fact, I think that basic users should have method
>> 1(two-fingered swipe menu), and advanced should have method 2 (toolbar).
>>
>> Anyway, those are my thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Finnbar
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:03, Dalius <dalius@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  So with calculator we have following problem: we have not followed
>> completely proposed design from Canonical and made it more complicated.
>> Basically question is if we should show less in screen (as in design) or
>> more (as implemented). Less will mean that we would need to remove
>> scientific buttons and some other functionality now. That adds some
>> limitations as well IMO. I would like to hear community opinion and
>> preferences.
>>
>> Here I have tried to sum up what problems I see with too much simplicity:
>> http://devblog.sandbox.lt/ubuntu_phone_calculator_design.html
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dalius
>>
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