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[Tarek Galal <tare2.galal@xxxxxxxxx>]

For WhatsApp, there is no way to identify what phone the other side is
using, and if there is, most likely WhatsApp will immediately use it to
block clients identified as Ubuntu phones

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Alan Miller <dralanmiller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Gentlemen
> What do you think the chances are of implementing a secured version of
> this using OTR or ZRTP ?
>
> I am in favour of putting OTR or ZRTP  encryption at the lower parts of
> the stack and then bring up the fingerprints/hashes options into the phone
> UI, say a key icon beside the battery icon, the usual swipe down gives the
> encryption options.
> This would allow for opportunistic encryption peer to peer when two Ubuntu
> phones knew of each other,  regardless of what service was used and would
> stay silent when the other client was not an ubuntu.
>
> An equivalent generic messaging client that can support whatsapp (with PTT
> voice messages etc) in Ubuntu would be spectacularly useful. (especially if
> it could encrypt).
>
> What do you think the chances are  of this being a reality ?
>
> Thanks
> Kind Regards
> AGM
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> *From: *Tarek Galal <tare2.galal@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject: **Re: [Ubuntu-phone] About WhatsApp implementation for Ubuntu
> phone*
> *Date: *14 March, 2013 1:34:24 AM HKT
> *To: *Matthias Gehre <gehre.matthias@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc: *"ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>
> Yeah well telepathy itself could be supporting everything, but I guess it
> would be Ubuntu's telepathy client limitations, right? I haven't tried it,
> but I mean I haven't seen a telepathy client (yet) which displays delivery
> receipts (even when telepathy itself supports it). Same case for displaying
> contacts' "last seen at" and group icons. And these are only a few thing on
> top of my head. Also what about Emoji support?  I released BB10 client like
> 4 days ago and already getting a lot of complaints for not supporting Emoji.
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Matthias Gehre <gehre.matthias@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> To clarify: ubuntu phone messaging menu/empaty/ KDE telepathy etc, can
>> already be used, but they only show the "content" field of the message.
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Matthias Gehre <gehre.matthias@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Hi Tarek,
>>>
>>> I'm Matthias, the developer of whosthere, a whatsapp client for ubuntu /
>>> ubuntu phone. It's implemented as a telepathy service (using yowsp). There
>>> shouldn't be any features missing by using telepathy, everything is/can be
>>> wrapped into telepathy. (Receipts are supported natively by telepathy,
>>> image, location and so on are implemented as extended messages parameters).
>>> For example, a location is send as
>>> content-type=plain/text
>>> content= "location: \"" << name  << "\" at
>>> https://maps.google.com/maps?q="; << latitude << "," << longitude;
>>> x-whosthere-latitude = latitude
>>> x-whosthere-longitude = longitude
>>>
>>> I also wrote a small GUI (on QML2, because QML1 is not supported on
>>> ubuntu touch), which is necessary for telepathy account creation.
>>> And also supports all those x-whosthere-* fields.
>>> But in the long run the ubuntu phone messaging menu on the phone/empaty/
>>> KDE telepathy etc, may be better GUIs for actual conversations (when
>>> x-whosthere-* can be integrated into the telepathy spec)
>>>
>>> The GUI is at https://github.com/mgehre/whosthere
>>> The telepathy-cm is at https://github.com/mgehre/telepathy-whosthere
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/13 Tarek Galal <tare2.galal@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> My name is Tarek, I'm author of Yowsup, and WhatsApp clients on N9 and
>>>> BB10 (Wazapp and OpenWhatsapp). It's great to see you guys already working
>>>> on a client for Ubuntu phone, which happens to be also based on Yowsup. I
>>>> don't know if you are aiming for a standalone UI, or only a telepathy
>>>> plugin. Although a telepathy plugin would integrate nicely with the system,
>>>> I think it would however force dropping some main features in WhatsApp, for
>>>> instance, display of receipts for sent and delivered messages. And that's
>>>> why I went for a standalone UI on meego/harmattan even though it ships with
>>>> telepathy. Perhaps a combination of both, a plugin, and a UI could work
>>>> together? Anyway, I'm writing to you, in case you need any help using the
>>>> library or writing a UI. If you're going for a complete UI, Wazapp is
>>>> already in QML, and I can port it to use Ubuntu Components. So please let
>>>> me know.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Tarek
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>>
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