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I agree with Cyrille, in some case you don't even have free 3G but you can still use it, it is just so expensive. So if you phone starts the first time with 3G on, when you will be asked to set you calendars, emails and so on, it will synchronise on the 3G. At the beginning, it will be a complete new experience to user so they will first don't realise that 3G is on (or even know what 3G is).
It will be easy to access from Network Manager anyway.

I know a friend who tested Cyanogenmod which had 3G on on first start and he had the issue I just explained. He said that it's something that makes it not look professional and I agree that it is not a good idea.
On 07/11/2013 06:02 PM, Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga wrote:

I don't agree with that. I'm always connected. How does Network Manager know the Roaming is active? People expected it but don't what it cost. And at the end of the month they are surprise that they reached the limit or that their speed became slow. People know how to activate 3G.

Am 11.07.2013 17:50 schrieb "Rasmus Eneman" <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx>>:

    If it didn't connect automatically a lot of people would complain
    that mobile data isn't working.
    We live in a connected world and most people expect to be
    connected by default.
    It should connect by default but be easily disconnectable however
    roaming should
    be disabled by default as that may be very expensive.
    Data should also be easily to disable in the network indicator.
    I haven't tried the version Bill mentions but I expect that is
    what I'm thinking about.


    2013/7/11 Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga <cyrildz@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:cyrildz@xxxxxxxxx>>

        I will say I hate this behavior on Android I boot up the phone
        and it automatically connects with 3G...
        By default Ubuntu should not connect the 3G data

        Am 11.07.2013 13:17 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
        <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:

            Ok... glad you guys mentioned it... Would have been a big
            surprise on my trip
            to Spain tomorrow if the device establishes a data
            connection without me even
            knowing.

            Any hint how to disable the autoconnect feature and revert
            back to manual
            conections?

            Thanks

            On Wednesday 10 July 2013 09:09:19 Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
            wrote:
            > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Jono Bacon
            <jono@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jono@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
            > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Michael Zanetti <
            > >
            > > michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
            > >> Hi Sergio,
            > >>
            > >> On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:51:37 Sergio Schvezov wrote:
            > >> > - Network Manager now automatically enables the
            data connection.
            > >>
            > >> Uh... That sounds scary. At least for people without
            a data flatrate.
            > >> Afaik
            > >> there is no 3G indicator yet. How do I know if
            current traffic is routed
            > >> through
            > >> WiFi or 3G data?
            >
            > When you're connected to Wifi, you're using Wifi. The
            routing priority is
            > made so that wifi is always preferred since it's "free".
            >
            > Otherwise you may be connected to 3G and in that case,
            you'll use 3G.
            >
            > > Agreed, might be best not to switch on by default
            until at least there is
            > > a switch.
            > >
            > > Can anyone provide an update on when the switch is
            likely to land?
            >
            > There is a code branch with updates to the indicator to
            enable/disable wifi
            > and mobile data. I expect it would be landing soon.
            >
            >
            > However, you can already control the behavior of
            NetworkManager via nmcli,
            > for instance:
            >
            > nmcli dev disconnect iface /ril_0      # disconnect the
            modem interface
            > (get offline)
            >
            > nmcli con up id <connection>  # connect to the data
            network (you
            > need to provide the name of the connection[1]
            >
            >
            > [1] The name of the connection to bring up is a /,
            followed by a set of
            > numbers (your IMEI), followed by a / and "contextX"
            which is a value
            > specific to connections available from your provider.
            The list can be seen
            > via the command:
            >
            > nmcli con
            >
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu-tl@xxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:mathieu-tl@xxxxxxxxxx>>
            > Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu.tl@xxxxxxxxx
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