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[Simon <oct4v14n@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

To sum up my understanding of this discussion (please correct me where
I'm wrong):

1. Everything inhereted by Debian will be installable without
registration/login, but only on a desktop.

2. Some additions (mainly drivers and Ubuntu specific services) by
Ubuntu/Canonical will also be installable without beeing logged in.

3. Everything which is published not by "1." or "2." I'll have to login
to "Ubuntu One" to access/download/use it.
3.1. Click-Apss (regardless of being freeware/opensource/paid) are an
example for "3."
3.2. Ubuntu One is a service hosted by Canonical.
3.3. Ubuntu One is just an account/"single sign on service" which grants
me access to some services (like "installing paid/free apps")

4. I'll not be able to install software on my phone (as a enduser)
without beeing logged into / registered at "Ubuntu One"


My questions under the assumptions the above understanding is right:

Is this design (you have to have an "Ubuntu One" account to extend your
smartphone capabilities) an agreed item/behavior?
Or is this just "v0" of click/ubuntu-touch?

In one Q&A sessions by Jono Bacon, he stated that you will _probably_
not to be logged in to access free apps. Is this information outdated?

Am 14.10.2013 22:14, schrieb Dave Morley:
> On 14/10/13 21:05, Nicolas Delvaux wrote:
>> Le 14/10/2013 21:21, Dave Morley a écrit :
>>> On 14/10/13 18:59, Nicolas Delvaux wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm enjoying Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus4 so far, except for one
>>>> detail. I noticed that it is required to be connected to an
>>>> Ubuntu-One account in order to be able to install any app.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a bug or a feature?
>>>>
>>>> I understand that it could be needed to buy apps. But for the
>>>> free ones I don't see why it should be a requirement (and it adds
>>>> one more privacy concern).
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your work.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Nicolas
>>>>
>>>
>>> So Ubuntu SSO (the general Ubuntu Login for all of ubuntu websites
>>> wiki etc) got rebranded Ubuntu One Login.  This is just a login
>>> mechanism that allows you access to the current applications and
>>> will allow you to purchase apps in the future.  It is basically the
>>> same login you would of used in Software-center to obtain for
>>> purchase apps in the past.
>>
>> I think this is understandable in this use case. Paid apps "licences"
>> have to be centralized and associated to an unique user.
>>
>> But today, on the desktop, I can still install Stellarium from the
>> software center without being logged-in.
>> Though I have to sign-in if I want to re-install some Humble Indie
>> Bundle games.
>>
>> The point is that, if I'm not mistaken, Touch does not currently bring
>> any feature that the desktop doesn't already have (regarding
>> installing apps).
>> The Ubuntu-One account is optional on the desktop, and I fail to see a
>> technical reason to explain why it is not possible to do the same on
>> the phone.
>> Can someone enlighten me here?
>>
>> If this is motivated only by commercial reasons, it would be better to
>> say it officially I think.
>>
>>> Yes it is deliberate.
>>>
>>> No it won't go away.
>>
>> Thank you for being clear.
>> Does this mean that this requirement will also come to the desktop
>> when the convergence goal will be reached?
>>
>>
>>> Final if you get a new ubuntu phone it will hopefully be able to do
>>> what google does with android and set you up with all the apps you
>>> have purchased/installed.
>>
>> AFAIK it is already possible on the desktop (the "Sync Between
>> Computers" menu item). And it still allows the software center to be
>> used without an Ubuntu One account.
>>
>> Thank you for your answer Dave!
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
> 
> Right so these applications act the same way as a $0 for purchase app
> works,  it's still free but you need access to get the app.  Stellarium
> is a repo application, repo apps just need you to have the repostitory
> enabled to install them (i.e. no need for access).  With Ubuntu touch
> there is no repo so you have to login to gain a subscription to the
> application in order to install it.
> 
> Yes on a converged device to gain access to the click apps you will need
> to login.  However as I understand the desktop will be slightly
> different in that you can still access the standard repos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
kind regards

Simon

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