ubuntu-phone team mailing list archive

[Davide Alberelli <dadexix86@xxxxxxxxx>]

2015-08-04 13:17 GMT+02:00 Arash <arashbm@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Hi.
>
> A phone is a phone and if you don't intend to use it like a phone, you
> have to deal with the consequences and not the phone makers.
>

So you are basically saying goodbye (and thanks for all the fish) to
convergence :)

I believe that we are not talking about phones anymore, these things that
we have in our hands are mainly computers, with the possibility to make
calls and send sms, things that people do less and less everyday (on a
related side, making calls and sending sms is way more insecure than
sending messages via encripted chats).
The last "phone" I had - that I can honestly call "phone" - dated back to a
Nokia 3330.



> But to me, this is a text book example of "I need a faster horse" kind of
> problem. Making application X load faster will not solve anything. It is
> only a symptom to another problem. I believe Improving application loading
> time will improve the experience.
>

I definitely agree on this.
Making eveything load faster will positively influence also this particular
problem, as well as the same problem with the other applications.
So, I agree that we should improve everything, not just "application X" and
than eventually let the user decide what she/he wants to always be up (the
dialer app, the message app, telegram, whatever else).

Davide

>
> Arash
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:26 PM Niklas Wenzel <nikwen.developer@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> But what's about people like me who almost never use the dialer? Do you
>> want to force this upon us when the system is already killing my apps when
>> I have only three of them open?
>>
>> And please don't respond with "a phone is a phone and you have to use it
>> like one".
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 4. August 2015 schrieb Alberto Mardegan :
>> > On 08/04/2015 02:30 AM, Christian Dywan wrote:
>> >> And the same with messages and contacts and browser and music?
>> >
>> > No :-)
>> >
>> >> I'm rather concerned about hiding performance issues rather than
>> >> tracking them down and addressing them. And more generally increasing
>> >> technical debt. We already have ugly special-cases like unconfined apps
>> >> and lifecycle exceptions. And they already lead to plenty confusion and
>> >> frustration when working normal apps that can't deal with certain
>> >> limitations.
>> >
>> > I hear you and I fully agree. :-)
>> >
>> > However, the dialer app is really special. Emergency calls are something
>> > that should always work no matter what, so keeping this application
>> > running is something that could be considered.
>> >
>> > We have plenty of useless background processes (for instance for
>> > location and bluetooth, when I have them disabled!), so if memory is a
>> > concern I'd rather optimize those away.
>> >
>> > Ciao,
>> >   Alberto
>> >
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