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[Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ok. Cool. Thanks. I'll start my development after the next system OTA

On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> No clue, sorry. I only know it uses the Android drivers so they're
> probably somewhere in the small Android system image, or they might be part
> of the kernel. Not sure how that works!
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:53 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','empholmi@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>
>> Alright. Do you know what wifi driver is used, and if it supports packet
>> injection? I hope this will be my last question and I'll stop bugging you,
>> but that is something I need. Also, where is the driver located, what is
>> the requirement for a different driver, and is it proprietary?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah it's pretty similar. The differences are that it's an ARM system
>>> instead of x86 and the way hardware access works (via an Android
>>> container). Also obviously it doesn't use X.org/compiz and instead it uses
>>> Mir. Other than that it's pretty much the same.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:47 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. I like your profile image. Once in read/write, everything is the
>>>> same as the desktop, right? What are the most prominent differences?
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It does on the Nexus 7 2013 (flo), but you may want to try it on your
>>>>> specific device before doing anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:44 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool. Does recovery mode present an ADB interface for repair?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> System updates doesn't work on a per-package basis, they just change
>>>>>>> the filesystem directly. I'd just skip updates while developing if I were
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The worst thing that can happen (probably) is that you'll need to
>>>>>>> reinstall Ubuntu on your phone, I don't think there's any chance it'll
>>>>>>> break your phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if I work to install .Deb packages in the terminal, will those
>>>>>>>> be separate packages and therefor untouched? I don't have much money in
>>>>>>>> case this breaks my phone, so I have to look into everything before I do
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, updates are installed from recovery.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your changes *might* be preserved if you're lucky and the update
>>>>>>>>> doesn't touch any files you've changed either. Don't count on it.
>>>>>>>>> Luck-driven software development doesn't end well :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:35 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And if I send it back into read-only before I do the update, my
>>>>>>>>>> changes should be preserved, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it won't, so make sure you don't upgrade, or save your
>>>>>>>>>>> changes elsewhere before you do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if you skip an OTA and install the next one, it will do a
>>>>>>>>>>> fresh install of your system, because there won't be any delta patch
>>>>>>>>>>> available so it'll download the entire system image.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. Thanks. I'll start working. And that will disable OTA
>>>>>>>>>>>> updates, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You won't lose data by making it read/write, but obviously if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do something wrong and screw things up you'll probably lose data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will I lose data?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can either reboot to set it to read only or just write
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mount -o remount,ro /".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think you're going to brick your device by doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, at most you'll have to reinstall your system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM Eric Holmi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Also, how do you send it back to read only?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to know its stable, as I don't have the money to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to mark your filesystem as r/w you just have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run this command as root:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount -o remount,rw /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM Eric Holmi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could try doing some of those things myself, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know the command to make the current stable version on the Nexus for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read/write. The one on the developer install page doesn't work. Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that 3G is a little bit slower than Wi-Fi, and drains battery, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't get as hot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Daniel van Vugt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daniel.van.vugt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things we need for efficient video playback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   1. Hardware codec support; and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   2. Hardware overlay bypass of simple surfaces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't know the status of #1 but I've heard it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming, if not landed already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #2 is in progress with the Mir team right now (part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "nested bypass" effort). Don't expect it finished till Mir 0.16 or Mir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.17, or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/08/15 04:51, Eric Holmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys, my Nexus 4 (most recent stable version) gave me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a burn that almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blistered after 15 minutes of YouTube (wifi), and went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from 29% battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 2% in that time. I think that needs to be fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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