ubuntu-phone team mailing list archive

[Thomas Voß <thomas.voss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Craig Harper <dexteruk75@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Surly reserving the right, should be an informed user decision.  Could we
> not make it easier to choose how we want to run our phones?
>
> Nokia when they launched the N9, has a locked down linux distro, but once
> enabling the developer mode it give you the freedom to do with the phones as
> we pleased.
>

The developer mode certainly is an option and something we have been
talking about in the past.

> Could we not adopt some similar approach for 0% resources if you choose a
> different profile your applications get different resource available to
> them, believe me the terminal on the ubuntu touch is useless, you cannot do
> a trace or a ping and switch to a browser without is suspending or your ssh
> session timing out.
>
> Surly it would be easier now, rather than later to build some kind of
> multitasking group, that apps a user does not want to switched to 0%
> resources can be added to or agreed with so that the app can continue to run
> in the background.
>

We have to be very careful about introducing features too early before
understanding the implications.
Taking away features and functionality is way harder (almost
impossible) than not introducing them in the first place.

Cheers,

  Thomas

> Thanks
>
> Craig
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.voss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Craig Harper <dexteruk75@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I also really thing something should be done about this, even if you
>> > create
>> > a user override, allowing applications to multitask in the background.
>> > Like
>> > you give permissions for applications to use the GPS.  Then the battery
>> > life
>> > would be the users choice, personally i was looking for a Linux machine
>> > in
>> > my pocket that is what got me excited about Ubuntu Touch, but instead i
>> > got
>> > smoke an mirrors, i use Linux a lot in my life, computers make our lives
>> > easier when they are working for us 24/7 not only when we are looking at
>> > the
>> > screen.  Choosing Open Source over closed source is about freedom, so
>> > any
>> > choice should be based on user choice not some top down idea, force onto
>> > everyone.
>> >
>> > Lets get this fixed.
>> >
>>
>> lp:unity8 and lp:qtmir if you want to start experimenting with
>> different lifecycle policies.
>> All the code is readily available to everyone.
>>
>> > Linux without Multi Tasking really is not forward thinking.
>> >
>>
>> Oh, we are actually multi-tasking :) we only reserve the right to
>> limit resources granted to applications if they are not visible to the
>> user.
>> On the phone, we take an extreme position and execute as in "0%
>> resources". That does not mean that we are not multi-tasking though.
>>
>>   Thomas
>>
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Fredrik Andersson
>> > <fredrikfritte@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dont know if this is all programs, but i wanna be able to play some
>> >> music
>> >> maybe in a browser or music app and be able to switch to other
>> >> scopes/apps
>> >>
>> >> Den 2015-10-01 kl. 13:25, skrev Alan Bell:
>> >>>
>> >>> I quite agree, even if it is a user preference it would be fine, I
>> >>> would
>> >>> choose to have multitasking when the screen is on. I find it rather
>> >>> frustrating on slow connections to be unable to background the web
>> >>> browser
>> >>> to let it load something while I check on other things.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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