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[Ionut Negru <blackjohnny@xxxxxxxxx>]

Are those not working OS features equivalent to a car braking system? I
think not :) What are you really upset about?

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 15:09 Krzysztof Tataradziński <ktatar156@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> 2015-11-28 22:04 GMT+01:00 Gareth France <gareth.france@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> On 28/11/15 20:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>
>>> If it bothers you to see rough edges then why purchase a phone with an
>> operating system which is currently most famous for not being finished? We
>> all accepted before purchase that we would be witnessing the development of
>> the finished product.
>>
>>
> Sorry, but I think You miss the point. In my opinion there is problem with
> providing basic features that can be reached by hardware. Lets see at radio
> FM - doesn't work. 4K recording in MX4 (146 days - aging of the bug
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666 )
> that was advertised when selling phone. Also proper resolution of the
> photos - that is also long-aged bug not repaired yet.
> Suppose that Canonical are making cars. There will develop high-end
> electric car. They will told us that for now car can reach 100 km/h in 4.5
> seconds, has range 560 km on one charge and some other cool features. But
> you ask about breaks - why they are not working? You probably will hear: we
> working on that, don't have hard deadline for that, but we must admit that
> in next software update we improve battery charging and implement feature
> that allow car to fly for 30 seconds. But you are thinking - why I need car
> that can charge fast and fly, if it can't even brake? That is analogical
> situation to convergence - we don't have some basic features worked in
> every other phones, but ignoring them, Canonical is implementing some other
> - of course that convergence feature is great and killing other mobile OSes
> - but I don't care of that, if I can't even use radio FM, send files via
> Bluetooth or download file that phone can't open without proper app.
> I think that Canonical is missing something - there are many basic
> features that are not working and should focus on them. Ubuntu has one of
> the most active community in IT world, but I think there is problem with
> using its resources and communication with it.
> I also understand that Canonical has limited resources, but if there is a
> problem with that - ask community what to.
> My proposal is to create crowdfunding campaign and hire someone to work
> with basic bugs/features. If that campaign would appear, it seems to me
> that people will be more than happy, knowing that their money will go to
> provide the basic functionality of their phones.
>
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