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Message #17644
Re: Find out if running on a phone
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Robert Park <robert.park@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But dynamically changing between a desktop and a phone doesn't make, eg, the
> accelerometer appear and disappear.
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> So if you have code that says "if phone: use accelerometer", can you see how
> broken that is? Plugging in a screen and keyboard will effectively disable
> your accelerometer, because your code assumes desktops don't have those.
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> You should absolutely not be writing code that makes assumptions about what
> features desktops have or what phones have.
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> You need to detect the feature itself and use it if you have it.
>
+1, if a specific *scenario* (like "TV") results in a feature to be
disabled, the respective middleware has to report this to apps. The
app should not take such decisions on its own.
> On Jan 11, 2016 12:08 PM, "Lorn Potter" <lorn.potter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
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>> On 12/01/16 05:35, Robert Park wrote:
>>>
>>> But the point is that you can't have coffee that says "if desktop: x; if
>>> phone: y" because it can change at any time and you can't rely on that.
>>
>>
>> Yes this desktop/phablet mode thing would be dynamic. It can change at any
>> time, which is why it needs to be detected dynamically.
>>
>> When you connect bt keyboard & external display, phone is now in desktop
>> mode. When you flip back your laptop's touchscreen, it's it now phablet
>> mode. It already does the first one except there is no API to let developers
>> know for certain what mode it is in.
>>
>>>
>>> **MUCH** better user experience if you do feature detection, eg "if
>>> push_notifications_available: enable_push_notifications()", this way
>>> they work everywhere they exist, rather than trying to guess whether or
>>> not they exist by making assumptions about what is a "phone" vs what is
>>> a "desktop".
>>>
>>
>> It really depends on what you are doing.
>>
>> We can either provide an API to do so or developers will try and guess
>> these things on their own.
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Find out if running on a phone
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michael Zanetti, 2016-01-10
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michi Henning, 2016-01-10
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michi Henning, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michael Zanetti, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michi Henning, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michael Zanetti, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michi Henning, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Thomas Voß, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michael Zanetti, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Jani Monoses, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Michael Zanetti, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Jani Monoses, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Stephen M. Webb, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Lorn Potter, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Stephen M. Webb, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Lorn Potter, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Robert Park, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Lorn Potter, 2016-01-11
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Re: Find out if running on a phone
From: Robert Park, 2016-01-11