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[Greg Ryman <ryman.greg@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not a huge fan of Flash myself, and I'm certainly no fan of Adobe's
Flash player. I can't check which package flash-player is right now, so I'm
not sure which one it is. However, I'd hope we aren't pigeonholing people
into using Adobe's Flash as their first experience on Ubuntu. Even though
WedM is in beta, I believe it to be more stable than Flash from my
experience.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  I want videos. So I Suggest
>  - Videos are started with a link (surrounded by a little explanation) on
> the bottom of several tour-pages.
>  - if you click, ubuntu-tour opens a local url in a new firefox-window.
>  - Videos are played in Flash-Format, because firefox 4 with webm-feature
> is still beta
>  - If ubuntu-tour is released for Natty, we can use the build in player
>
>  The flash player needs to be installed, therefore we have several
> possibilities:
>  - flashplayer is a dependency of ubuntu-tour package
>  - button in ubuntu-tour to install flash-player via atp
>  - tutorial in ubuntu-tour how to install flash-player
>  - trust firefox: firefox leads the user to install the flashplayer
>
> Or:
>  - Don't include videos for the maverick release, because there won't be
> many people going through the tour.
>  - Therefore waiting for Natty which includes firefox 4. With natty we
> won't have any player problem
>
>
>
> On 23.09.2010 08:26, Silas Lenz wrote:
>
> Using the html5 video tag is possible.
>  Also playing from youtube is possible without flash, maybe it is even
> possible to use the webm version from youtube but i don't know.
> I think we should use streaming, but make the tour usable without the
> videos.
>
> On 23 September 2010 00:03, Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> What about streaming Videos using popular internet video platforms? We can
>> use html. Mayby the webkitview can handle html5 video-tags? Maybe there is a
>> way to play videos from youtube without installed flashplayer?
>> I think wasting hundreds of megabytes of disk space for videos is silly if
>> users never watch them.
>> Or there will be additional ubuntutour-screencasts-en packages for each
>> language.
>>
>> But using videos is a great idea!
>>
>>
>> On 22.09.2010 19:29, Ivo Reumkens wrote:
>>
>> So each language need it's screenshots. Than I have a problem, because
>> Dutch isn't included on the live-cd, so I need a DVD with all languages. And
>> if you want videos, in all language to, then all videos are slightly
>> different.
>>
>> but here is another online screen application:
>> http://www.screentoaster.com/
>>
>> 2010/9/22 Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> We'll probably have a few vidoes by the finish.
>>> Tour size we can probably handle. Most likely, the tour, or at least the
>>> images, will be downloaded upon install instead of pre-installed. We'll have
>>> to do something of the sort, since each language will need its screenshots
>>> in a package (ubuntu-tour-screenshots_es, ubuntu-tour-screenshots_fr, etc).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM, K.de Jong <k.dejong@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like the progress we have made already.
>>>>
>>>> But, my initial thoughts for a tour application were some sort of
>>>> picture and video howto's.
>>>> Texts are always needed and pictures too.
>>>> but I do hope we can do some videos too.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the size of pictures we have already
>>>> I wonder if some of that can be made automatically,
>>>> this would reduce the amount of files in the package.
>>>> but this may be wishful thinking...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/22 Jason Cook <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>  > I aggree that basics are important and if we don't have time for a
>>>> proper
>>>> > advanced section, then we should wait.
>>>> > PS: I love the name Natty too
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think it will be a goal for Natty (I love that name). I would like
>>>> to
>>>> >> see an advanced section eventually, but I think the basics are more
>>>> >> important.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>        -Alex
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:23 -0400, Jason Cook wrote:
>>>> >> > If including an advanced section is denied I will help you  with
>>>> >> > creating the advanced section. This is something that I think would
>>>> be
>>>> >> > very useful for some new users.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David Tigue <dtigue@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >         I think an advanced section would be something to think
>>>> about.
>>>> >> >         Maybe not
>>>> >> >         in the initial release, or the version on the live disk,
>>>> but
>>>> >> >         maybe
>>>> >> >         something in the way of a plug-in that can be installed
>>>> later
>>>> >> >         from the
>>>> >> >         repos. I would think a place for advanced users to be able
>>>> to
>>>> >> >         quick
>>>> >> >         reference stuff like a simple samba/nfs/sftp setup, lamp
>>>> >> >         setup, or maybe
>>>> >> >         even something a little less advanced would be nice to
>>>> have. I
>>>> >> >         have
>>>> >> >         always been real bad to forget advanced commands in the
>>>> past.
>>>> >> >         A place to
>>>> >> >         look stuff up like that instead of doing a separate web
>>>> search
>>>> >> >         for
>>>> >> >         anything I need would be a huge help. Think of it as a
>>>> melting
>>>> >> >         pot for
>>>> >> >         all the on-line documents advanced users have to search for
>>>> >> >         everyday.
>>>> >> >         Maybe it could be totally separate from the Ubuntu-tour.
>>>> >> >         Something like
>>>> >> >         Ubuntu-advanced-tour. If you guys don't like the idea of
>>>> >> >         something like
>>>> >> >         that, then do I have permission to start something on the
>>>> side
>>>> >> >         for more
>>>> >> >         advanced users, using some code from Ubuntu-tour ?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
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>>>>  Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>> Keimpe de Jong
>>>>
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Greg Ryman