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[Ivo Reumkens <ivoreum@xxxxxxxxx>]

I suggest videos with a link, and a turotorial in the tour how to install
the Flash Player or  the Multimedia Extras (I thought it included
flashplayer). If Firefox 4 is released, you can always change it.

2010/9/23 Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

>  I want videos. So I Suggest
>  - Videos are started with a link (surrounded by a little explanation) on
> the bottom of several tour-pages.
>  - if you click, ubuntu-tour opens a local url in a new firefox-window.
>  - Videos are played in Flash-Format, because firefox 4 with webm-feature
> is still beta
>  - If ubuntu-tour is released for Natty, we can use the build in player
>
>  The flash player needs to be installed, therefore we have several
> possibilities:
>  - flashplayer is a dependency of ubuntu-tour package
>  - button in ubuntu-tour to install flash-player via atp
>  - tutorial in ubuntu-tour how to install flash-player
>  - trust firefox: firefox leads the user to install the flashplayer
>
> Or:
>  - Don't include videos for the maverick release, because there won't be
> many people going through the tour.
>  - Therefore waiting for Natty which includes firefox 4. With natty we
> won't have any player problem
>
>
>
>
> On 23.09.2010 08:26, Silas Lenz wrote:
>
> Using the html5 video tag is possible.
>  Also playing from youtube is possible without flash, maybe it is even
> possible to use the webm version from youtube but i don't know.
> I think we should use streaming, but make the tour usable without the
> videos.
>
> On 23 September 2010 00:03, Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> What about streaming Videos using popular internet video platforms? We can
>> use html. Mayby the webkitview can handle html5 video-tags? Maybe there is a
>> way to play videos from youtube without installed flashplayer?
>> I think wasting hundreds of megabytes of disk space for videos is silly if
>> users never watch them.
>> Or there will be additional ubuntutour-screencasts-en packages for each
>> language.
>>
>> But using videos is a great idea!
>>
>>
>> On 22.09.2010 19:29, Ivo Reumkens wrote:
>>
>> So each language need it's screenshots. Than I have a problem, because
>> Dutch isn't included on the live-cd, so I need a DVD with all languages. And
>> if you want videos, in all language to, then all videos are slightly
>> different.
>>
>> but here is another online screen application:
>> http://www.screentoaster.com/
>>
>> 2010/9/22 Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> We'll probably have a few vidoes by the finish.
>>> Tour size we can probably handle. Most likely, the tour, or at least the
>>> images, will be downloaded upon install instead of pre-installed. We'll have
>>> to do something of the sort, since each language will need its screenshots
>>> in a package (ubuntu-tour-screenshots_es, ubuntu-tour-screenshots_fr, etc).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM, K.de Jong <k.dejong@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like the progress we have made already.
>>>>
>>>> But, my initial thoughts for a tour application were some sort of
>>>> picture and video howto's.
>>>> Texts are always needed and pictures too.
>>>> but I do hope we can do some videos too.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the size of pictures we have already
>>>> I wonder if some of that can be made automatically,
>>>> this would reduce the amount of files in the package.
>>>> but this may be wishful thinking...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/22 Jason Cook <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>  > I aggree that basics are important and if we don't have time for a
>>>> proper
>>>> > advanced section, then we should wait.
>>>> > PS: I love the name Natty too
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think it will be a goal for Natty (I love that name). I would like
>>>> to
>>>> >> see an advanced section eventually, but I think the basics are more
>>>> >> important.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>        -Alex
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:23 -0400, Jason Cook wrote:
>>>> >> > If including an advanced section is denied I will help you  with
>>>> >> > creating the advanced section. This is something that I think would
>>>> be
>>>> >> > very useful for some new users.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David Tigue <dtigue@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >         I think an advanced section would be something to think
>>>> about.
>>>> >> >         Maybe not
>>>> >> >         in the initial release, or the version on the live disk,
>>>> but
>>>> >> >         maybe
>>>> >> >         something in the way of a plug-in that can be installed
>>>> later
>>>> >> >         from the
>>>> >> >         repos. I would think a place for advanced users to be able
>>>> to
>>>> >> >         quick
>>>> >> >         reference stuff like a simple samba/nfs/sftp setup, lamp
>>>> >> >         setup, or maybe
>>>> >> >         even something a little less advanced would be nice to
>>>> have. I
>>>> >> >         have
>>>> >> >         always been real bad to forget advanced commands in the
>>>> past.
>>>> >> >         A place to
>>>> >> >         look stuff up like that instead of doing a separate web
>>>> search
>>>> >> >         for
>>>> >> >         anything I need would be a huge help. Think of it as a
>>>> melting
>>>> >> >         pot for
>>>> >> >         all the on-line documents advanced users have to search for
>>>> >> >         everyday.
>>>> >> >         Maybe it could be totally separate from the Ubuntu-tour.
>>>> >> >         Something like
>>>> >> >         Ubuntu-advanced-tour. If you guys don't like the idea of
>>>> >> >         something like
>>>> >> >         that, then do I have permission to start something on the
>>>> side
>>>> >> >         for more
>>>> >> >         advanced users, using some code from Ubuntu-tour ?
>>>> >> >
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