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[Jason Odoom <jasonodoom@xxxxxxxxx>]

HTML5 is always the best way to go. We can also stream it through the
program as an alternative. What about offline play?

Jason Odoom
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Ivo Reumkens <ivoreum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I suggest videos with a link, and a turotorial in the tour how to install
> the Flash Player or  the Multimedia Extras (I thought it included
> flashplayer). If Firefox 4 is released, you can always change it.
>
> 2010/9/23 Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>  I want videos. So I Suggest
>>  - Videos are started with a link (surrounded by a little explanation) on
>> the bottom of several tour-pages.
>>  - if you click, ubuntu-tour opens a local url in a new firefox-window.
>>  - Videos are played in Flash-Format, because firefox 4 with webm-feature
>> is still beta
>>  - If ubuntu-tour is released for Natty, we can use the build in player
>>
>>  The flash player needs to be installed, therefore we have several
>> possibilities:
>>  - flashplayer is a dependency of ubuntu-tour package
>>  - button in ubuntu-tour to install flash-player via atp
>>  - tutorial in ubuntu-tour how to install flash-player
>>  - trust firefox: firefox leads the user to install the flashplayer
>>
>> Or:
>>  - Don't include videos for the maverick release, because there won't be
>> many people going through the tour.
>>  - Therefore waiting for Natty which includes firefox 4. With natty we
>> won't have any player problem
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23.09.2010 08:26, Silas Lenz wrote:
>>
>> Using the html5 video tag is possible.
>>  Also playing from youtube is possible without flash, maybe it is even
>> possible to use the webm version from youtube but i don't know.
>> I think we should use streaming, but make the tour usable without the
>> videos.
>>
>> On 23 September 2010 00:03, Daniel Seemer <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> What about streaming Videos using popular internet video platforms? We
>>> can use html. Mayby the webkitview can handle html5 video-tags? Maybe there
>>> is a way to play videos from youtube without installed flashplayer?
>>> I think wasting hundreds of megabytes of disk space for videos is silly
>>> if users never watch them.
>>> Or there will be additional ubuntutour-screencasts-en packages for each
>>> language.
>>>
>>> But using videos is a great idea!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22.09.2010 19:29, Ivo Reumkens wrote:
>>>
>>> So each language need it's screenshots. Than I have a problem, because
>>> Dutch isn't included on the live-cd, so I need a DVD with all languages. And
>>> if you want videos, in all language to, then all videos are slightly
>>> different.
>>>
>>> but here is another online screen application:
>>> http://www.screentoaster.com/
>>>
>>> 2010/9/22 Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> We'll probably have a few vidoes by the finish.
>>>> Tour size we can probably handle. Most likely, the tour, or at least the
>>>> images, will be downloaded upon install instead of pre-installed. We'll have
>>>> to do something of the sort, since each language will need its screenshots
>>>> in a package (ubuntu-tour-screenshots_es, ubuntu-tour-screenshots_fr, etc).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM, K.de Jong <k.dejong@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like the progress we have made already.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, my initial thoughts for a tour application were some sort of
>>>>> picture and video howto's.
>>>>> Texts are always needed and pictures too.
>>>>> but I do hope we can do some videos too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the size of pictures we have already
>>>>> I wonder if some of that can be made automatically,
>>>>> this would reduce the amount of files in the package.
>>>>> but this may be wishful thinking...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/22 Jason Cook <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>  > I aggree that basics are important and if we don't have time for a
>>>>> proper
>>>>> > advanced section, then we should wait.
>>>>> > PS: I love the name Natty too
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Lancey <
>>>>> alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think it will be a goal for Natty (I love that name). I would like
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> see an advanced section eventually, but I think the basics are more
>>>>> >> important.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>        -Alex
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:23 -0400, Jason Cook wrote:
>>>>> >> > If including an advanced section is denied I will help you  with
>>>>> >> > creating the advanced section. This is something that I think
>>>>> would be
>>>>> >> > very useful for some new users.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David Tigue <dtigue@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >         I think an advanced section would be something to think
>>>>> about.
>>>>> >> >         Maybe not
>>>>> >> >         in the initial release, or the version on the live disk,
>>>>> but
>>>>> >> >         maybe
>>>>> >> >         something in the way of a plug-in that can be installed
>>>>> later
>>>>> >> >         from the
>>>>> >> >         repos. I would think a place for advanced users to be able
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> >         quick
>>>>> >> >         reference stuff like a simple samba/nfs/sftp setup, lamp
>>>>> >> >         setup, or maybe
>>>>> >> >         even something a little less advanced would be nice to
>>>>> have. I
>>>>> >> >         have
>>>>> >> >         always been real bad to forget advanced commands in the
>>>>> past.
>>>>> >> >         A place to
>>>>> >> >         look stuff up like that instead of doing a separate web
>>>>> search
>>>>> >> >         for
>>>>> >> >         anything I need would be a huge help. Think of it as a
>>>>> melting
>>>>> >> >         pot for
>>>>> >> >         all the on-line documents advanced users have to search
>>>>> for
>>>>> >> >         everyday.
>>>>> >> >         Maybe it could be totally separate from the Ubuntu-tour.
>>>>> >> >         Something like
>>>>> >> >         Ubuntu-advanced-tour. If you guys don't like the idea of
>>>>> >> >         something like
>>>>> >> >         that, then do I have permission to start something on the
>>>>> side
>>>>> >> >         for more
>>>>> >> >         advanced users, using some code from Ubuntu-tour ?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
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>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --
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>>>>> Keimpe de Jong
>>>>>
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