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Re: Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.
On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
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> We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software
> center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of
> games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would
> allow for an App to have two interfaces (this is defined in Gnome 3),
> without requiring separate packages or code bases. That way we could
> add in an option to software center to allow the installation of
> "desktop apps". That might be a better option that using separate
> repositories, though it would require extra effort on the part of the
> repository maintainer.
>
> On Nov 29, 2011 7:59 PM, "Ian Nicholson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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> On 11/29/2011 08:50 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
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>> > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"?
>>
>> I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that
>> haven't been optimized for TVs.
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Palm Pre
>> > ________________________________
>> > On Nov 29, 2011 18:09, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:isantop@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> > What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I
>> > said they'd function differently from each other, since most users
>> > will use a TV for different things from what they use their
>> computer
>> > for. But everything would be linked to their Ubuntu One Cloud.
>> Nothing
>> > would necessarily be independent. Being connected to a personal
>> > network doesn't mean it needs to function exactly identically
>> to, or
>> > even have the option to function exactly identically to, a desktop
>> > computer. They have to access the same content, and synchronize
>> > progress through this content. Once you download a movie to your
>> > desktop, you can start watching it on the TV, and finish form the
>> > place you left off on your laptop before bed. Once you start
>> listening
>> > to music on the TV, you can move over to your smartphone and
>> drive to
>> > work without losing your place in the song. Complete and total
>> system
>> > integration with Ubuntu One; and wrapping it up in a comfortable,
>> > simple to use 10ft UI; is where Ubuntu TV really has the
>> possibility
>> > to shine and succeed, not by emulating Desktop functionality.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:20, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> > <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> > > I give up.
>> > >
>> > > Creating independent Ubuntu appliances makes no sense to me.
>> I won't buy
>> > > something like that just because it has an Ubuntu sticker on
>> it. It's either
>> > > a part of my personal network, or it's not. If it's not, then
>> I'd rather
>> > > purchase one from Samsung or LG or something. Single user,
>> one process,
>> > > unconnected...
>> > >
>> > > That's not my cup of tea.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> > >
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>> > --
>> > Ian Santopietro
>> >
>> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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> Ah I see. This has been something I've been considering, why
> don't we just have a special repo for UbuntuTV, and then allow the
> users to enable the other repos as they wish, once they've been
> warned that it's not optimal?
> That way we could leverage the Software Center as a way to install
> applications like games.
>
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So it seems like the main advantage is that it would mean only one code
base that the developers would have worry about. Is that a valid
assessment?
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