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Re: Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

 

On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
>
> We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software
> center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of
> games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would
> allow for an App to have two interfaces (this is defined in Gnome 3),
> without requiring separate packages or code bases. That way we could
> add in an option to software center to allow the installation of
> "desktop apps". That might be a better option that using separate
> repositories, though it would require extra effort on the part of the
> repository maintainer.
>
> On Nov 29, 2011 7:59 PM, "Ian Nicholson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     On 11/29/2011 08:50 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
>>
>>     > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"?
>>
>>     I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that
>>     haven't been optimized for TVs.
>>
>>     On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"?
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Sent from my Palm Pre
>>     > ________________________________
>>     > On Nov 29, 2011 18:09, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:isantop@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I
>>     > said they'd function differently from each other, since most users
>>     > will use a TV for different things from what they use their
>>     computer
>>     > for. But everything would be linked to their Ubuntu One Cloud.
>>     Nothing
>>     > would necessarily be independent. Being connected to a personal
>>     > network doesn't mean it needs to function exactly identically
>>     to, or
>>     > even have the option to function exactly identically to, a desktop
>>     > computer. They have to access the same content, and synchronize
>>     > progress through this content. Once you download a movie to your
>>     > desktop, you can start watching it on the TV, and finish form the
>>     > place you left off on your laptop before bed. Once you start
>>     listening
>>     > to music on the TV, you can move over to your smartphone and
>>     drive to
>>     > work without losing your place in the song. Complete and total
>>     system
>>     > integration with Ubuntu One; and wrapping it up in a comfortable,
>>     > simple to use 10ft UI; is where Ubuntu TV really has the
>>     possibility
>>     > to shine and succeed, not by emulating Desktop functionality.
>>     >
>>     > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:20, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>     > <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>     > > I give up.
>>     > >
>>     > > Creating independent Ubuntu appliances makes no sense to me.
>>     I won't buy
>>     > > something like that just because it has an Ubuntu sticker on
>>     it. It's either
>>     > > a part of my personal network, or it's not. If it's not, then
>>     I'd rather
>>     > > purchase one from Samsung or LG or something. Single user,
>>     one process,
>>     > > unconnected...
>>     > >
>>     > > That's not my cup of tea.
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>     > >
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>     Ah I see.  This has been something I've been considering, why
>     don't we just have a special repo for UbuntuTV, and then allow the
>     users to enable the other repos as they wish, once they've been
>     warned that it's not optimal?
>     That way we could leverage the Software Center as a way to install
>     applications like games.
>
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So it seems like the main advantage is that it would mean only one code
base that the developers would have worry about.  Is that a valid
assessment?

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