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[Cheri Francis <cheri703@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry Joseph, you'll get this twice because I forgot to send it to the
list the first time.

I too had issues with Unity. I had heard that it'd been touted as
AMAZING and wonderful. It is very visually pleasing, but I noticed
major lack of functionality in some areas.

10.04 is a LTS (I can't remember exactly what the acronym stands for),
so it is more stable, and more of an enterprise level release. The
"interim" releases are not quite as polished. A 2 year release cycle
(the LTS) is STILL faster than Windows' releases.

I am keeping 10.04 on my netbook for now, but running 10.10 on my
desktop. The fun part of that is that my video card that worked fine
in 10.04 doesn't work in 10.10. I downgraded the kernel (surprisingly
easier than expected) and now have video again.

I would suggest either going back to 10.04 or trying ubuntuforums or
irc. There are lots of resources available. I will take a look to see
if I can find any info about your specific issues. As far as the
numlock thing, check your bios settings. I recall seeing on my
computer's bios the option to boot with numlock on. This may or may
not be the answer, but it is at least something to check.

I'll respond again if I find anything of note. Good luck.

-Cherí

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You know, when I boot into a Microsoft OS with this box I happen not to have
> these problems, so, yes, it is different.
>
> And, you know, maybe if I spent a lot of time getting up to date again with
> all this, I might be able to help fix it. But here in my real world, I have
> deadlines to make and a paycheck to earn.
>
> I'm a simple end user. There are a lot of us out here. Get used to it.
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Jason Chandler <canthus13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Well, the way I see it, it's no different from when Microsoft makes their
>> releases.... Except that Ubuntu doesn't charge for the privilege of running
>> beta software, and you actually have input with the devs.
>> So, rather than complain about getting an OS for free, help fix it.
>>
>>
>> Jason Chandler
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Y'see, I'm a big Linux aficionado, but this is the kind of thing that
>>> really bugs me about Ubuntu (and Linux in general). There's the big drumroll
>>> leading up to the release, the excited reviews about how wonderful things
>>> are, the excitement of downloading and installing the new versio... and then
>>> it doesn't work, and I ask questions, and I get "Well, yeah, that's really
>>> buggy. Go back to the old version."
>>>
>>> I understand that Ubuntu has a widely touted process of alphas and betas
>>> and release candidates and all that... but we have these failures all the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> What can be done so that there's a dependable testing process? Does
>>> anyone take pride in and ownership of the new releases? Do we really expect
>>> to reach World Dominiation if the user experience has these hurdles?
>>>
>>> My unfortunate experience is that when I want excitement and to feel like
>>> I'm Doing The Right Thing, I use Linux. But when I'm facing deadlines and
>>> need productivity without either excuses or detours to work around stuff
>>> that I can't aford to have broken, I have to depend on something else.
>>>
>>> How can this be made better?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Patrick Best <pkbest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @Joe,
>>>>
>>>> First of al.. yeah.. politics suck. That's why ive stayed out of
>>>> ALLLL... of these convos. anyway... I have the Asus 1101HA (GMA500 Poulsbo
>>>> GFX card.) Even bigger pain to run on 10.10. Go with 10.04. I am using that
>>>> just fine with one of the most linux unsupported graphics cards in the Asus
>>>> line..  SO PaulTag is very much so right. 10.10's unity interface is
>>>> extremely buggy. I'd give it at least a few months before trying it. Also,
>>>> you can always try googling Asus EeePC ubuntu 10.10.. and see what pops up.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Heyya Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > First, my apologies for posting outside the key topics of politics or
>>>>> > dentistry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dude, we all hate politics. No worries.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition with the Unity interface on
>>>>> > an Asus
>>>>> > Eee 1001P. [0]
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh no. I see where this is going...
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The system has some quirks, such as starting with the keyboard
>>>>> > NumLocked
>>>>> > (which led me to think that i couldn't log in at all until I realized
>>>>> > it)
>>>>> > and not supporting an external monitor well.
>>>>>
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It also sometime grinds effectively to a halt. I hear it continuously
>>>>> > accessing the hard drive, but can't do anything. This sometimes
>>>>> > happens when
>>>>> > I revive it by pressing a key after it's been idle for several hours,
>>>>> > but
>>>>> > also see it in some other less well-defined circumstances. (One thing
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > found was that opening the Files and Folders screen, so I don't use
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > anymore, sticking with Gnome Commander.) When this happens, all I can
>>>>> > do is
>>>>> > forcibly power down then power it back up.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is more Unity then anything else. Since Mutter does not support
>>>>> hardware acceleration, it renders via software. BOO!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was trying to backport netbook-launcher to no avail. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I seem to remember there being scripts, and possibly even software
>>>>> > packages,
>>>>> > that straightened this stuff out, but I'm not seeing them anymore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > BTW, I hated the Unity interface when I first experienced it, but
>>>>> > have grown
>>>>> > to like it. With the help of Gnome Do, a bunch of Firefox plugins,
>>>>> > Dropbox,
>>>>> > and a few other tools, this is a surprisingly useful little PC.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So... does anyone have any pointers on getting 10.10 to work better
>>>>> > on this
>>>>> > Eee?
>>>>>
>>>>> Switch to 10.04. I know it sounds backwards, but 10.10's unity
>>>>> iterface is really really REALLY buggy. I've switched off of UNE
>>>>> because of it
>>>>>
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [0] http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=5AH8HAdGuhiQIXgg
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Joseph Zitt ::http://www.josephzitt.com
>>>>> >
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>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know how it goes!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors.
>>>>>
>>>>> #define sizeof(x) rand()
>>>>> :wq
>>>>>
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