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[Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You know, when I boot into a Microsoft OS with this box I happen not to have
these problems, so, yes, it is different.

And, you know, maybe if I spent a lot of time getting up to date again with
all this, I might be able to help fix it. But here in my real world, I have
deadlines to make and a paycheck to earn.

I'm a simple end user. There are a lot of us out here. Get used to it.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Jason Chandler <canthus13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, the way I see it, it's no different from when Microsoft makes their
> releases.... Except that Ubuntu doesn't charge for the privilege of running
> beta software, and you actually have input with the devs.
> So, rather than complain about getting an OS for free, help fix it.
>
>
> Jason Chandler
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Y'see, I'm a big Linux aficionado, but this is the kind of thing that
>> really bugs me about Ubuntu (and Linux in general). There's the big drumroll
>> leading up to the release, the excited reviews about how wonderful things
>> are, the excitement of downloading and installing the new versio... and then
>> it doesn't work, and I ask questions, and I get "Well, yeah, that's really
>> buggy. Go back to the old version."
>>
>> I understand that Ubuntu has a widely touted process of alphas and betas
>> and release candidates and all that... but we have these failures all the
>> time.
>>
>> What can be done so that there's a dependable testing process? Does anyone
>> take pride in and ownership of the new releases? Do we really expect to
>> reach World Dominiation if the user experience has these hurdles?
>>
>> My unfortunate experience is that when I want excitement and to feel like
>> I'm Doing The Right Thing, I use Linux. But when I'm facing deadlines and
>> need productivity without either excuses or detours to work around stuff
>> that I can't aford to have broken, I have to depend on something else.
>>
>> How can this be made better?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Patrick Best <pkbest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> @Joe,
>>>
>>> First of al.. yeah.. politics suck. That's why ive stayed out of ALLLL...
>>> of these convos. anyway... I have the Asus 1101HA (GMA500 Poulsbo GFX card.)
>>> Even bigger pain to run on 10.10. Go with 10.04. I am using that just fine
>>> with one of the most linux unsupported graphics cards in the Asus line..  SO
>>> PaulTag is very much so right. 10.10's unity interface is extremely buggy.
>>> I'd give it at least a few months before trying it. Also, you can always try
>>> googling Asus EeePC ubuntu 10.10.. and see what pops up.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heyya Joe,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > First, my apologies for posting outside the key topics of politics or
>>>> > dentistry.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, we all hate politics. No worries.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition with the Unity interface on
>>>> an Asus
>>>> > Eee 1001P. [0]
>>>>
>>>> Oh no. I see where this is going...
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The system has some quirks, such as starting with the keyboard
>>>> NumLocked
>>>> > (which led me to think that i couldn't log in at all until I realized
>>>> it)
>>>> > and not supporting an external monitor well.
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > It also sometime grinds effectively to a halt. I hear it continuously
>>>> > accessing the hard drive, but can't do anything. This sometimes
>>>> happens when
>>>> > I revive it by pressing a key after it's been idle for several hours,
>>>> but
>>>> > also see it in some other less well-defined circumstances. (One thing
>>>> I
>>>> > found was that opening the Files and Folders screen, so I don't use
>>>> that
>>>> > anymore, sticking with Gnome Commander.) When this happens, all I can
>>>> do is
>>>> > forcibly power down then power it back up.
>>>>
>>>> This is more Unity then anything else. Since Mutter does not support
>>>> hardware acceleration, it renders via software. BOO!
>>>>
>>>> I was trying to backport netbook-launcher to no avail. :(
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I seem to remember there being scripts, and possibly even software
>>>> packages,
>>>> > that straightened this stuff out, but I'm not seeing them anymore.
>>>> >
>>>> > BTW, I hated the Unity interface when I first experienced it, but have
>>>> grown
>>>> > to like it. With the help of Gnome Do, a bunch of Firefox plugins,
>>>> Dropbox,
>>>> > and a few other tools, this is a surprisingly useful little PC.
>>>> >
>>>> > So... does anyone have any pointers on getting 10.10 to work better on
>>>> this
>>>> > Eee?
>>>>
>>>> Switch to 10.04. I know it sounds backwards, but 10.10's unity
>>>> iterface is really really REALLY buggy. I've switched off of UNE
>>>> because of it
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > [0] http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=5AH8HAdGuhiQIXgg
>>>> > --
>>>> > Joseph Zitt ::http://www.josephzitt.com
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>> Let us know how it goes!!!
>>>>
>>>> -Paul
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors.
>>>>
>>>> #define sizeof(x) rand()
>>>> :wq
>>>>
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>>
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