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Re: [Question #77535]: Hard Drive/Partition not detected?

 

Question #77535 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/77535

Tom proposed the following answer:
Interesting.  It started being useful from about 5 minutes into the 2nd
YouTube video at which point he used "Manual Partitioning" lol, exactly
what i have been saying :) So all the useful stuff is crammed into the
last 4 minutes. lol

His understanding of what the linux-swap is for was wrong except that he also does say that it's the equivalent of "pagefile.sys" in Windows.  His idea about the way linux-swap is used is interesting but ...   
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
Linux-swap needs to be between 1 x Ram and 2 x Ram.  Having it as 2 x Ram means that you might well not need to change it if you add more ram sometime later.  If you have plenty of drive space then losing even as much as 1 or 2 Gb to linux-swap isn't going to hurt but does make things hugely easier if you do end up getting more ram.  With Windows on the system the chances are that you'll find a need for more ram later because Windows is really bad at efficiently using this type of computer resource, so why not plan ahead?  

The video doesn't show us how the Windows Partitioner has laid out the
partitions.  It just shows us the Windows "lets make this easy for the
stupid user" style and the videos don't then show us how this looks to a
linux partitioner.  My experience of doing this is that it makes the 1st
partition a Primary one but then stuffs all the rest into an Extended
partition which can give a slight decrease in performance for anything
that isn't on that 1st partition.  On newer machines and decent hard-
drives it's less of an issue but at best it's very inelegant.

Also he doesn't take into account the different read/write speeds that
most hard-drives suffer from across the surface of the drive and fails
to use that to advantage.  Given that read/write speed at the end of the
drive can be half that of the read/write speed at the beginning of the
drive i think this is a surprising 'detail' to leave out.   He rushes
through the complexity i clearly laid out but i guess that because he
wasn't clear about what he was doing and gabbled it that somehow makes
it easier.

The camera work shows us a good silhouette of the guy in a bedroom(!?)
When the camera does manage to focus on the screen we see Windows
talking about 3 drives but as the camera is more interested in showing
the guys pillow rather than the machine we have only his monotonous
voice telling us that it's only one drive - there's no footage showing
just 1 physical hard-drive inside the case.  If 'his sister' had used a
tripod (or 2) and shot from where the bed was then we might have had a
much more professional, informative video with much better lighting.

Apart from that it's a good video showing exactly what i have been saying, either 
1. Tailor partitions, install Windows & then install Ubuntu using "Manual Partitioning"
2. Install Windows to fill drive & then install Ubuntu using either "Guided" or "Manual" partitioning.  Not an elegant end-result but good enough.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that AP is right about installing
Windows to half the drive and then using "Guided".  In my experience
this will lead to a large chunk of the drive being empty but feel free
to try it and report back.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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