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[Jeremy Bícha <2114015@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Public bug reported:

There was an announcement [1] this week that Ubuntu Desktop 25.10 will
no longer include the Xorg session. Ubuntu Desktop no longer needs
xserver-xorg in the default install and is working on removing it there.
The 'xorg' metapackage has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg. 'xorg' is
included in desktop-common.

Therefore, we need 'xorg' to be removed from desktop-common and
individually added to all the other Ubuntu desktop flavor seeds.

I believe xorg installs unnecessary components and you might want to
pick and choose pieces instead. For instance, I don't think most
desktops need x11-apps or xcursor-themes.

You will need xserver-xorg if you install a session that uses xorg. If
you also include a Wayland session, you might want to split the Xorg
session to a separate binary package like Ubuntu Desktop 25.04 did with
ubuntu-session-xsession to allow people to try uninstalling that package
to use only the Wayland session.

[1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-10-drops-support-for-gnome-
on-xorg/62538

** Affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: ubuntu-budgie-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: ubuntu-mate-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: High
     Assignee: Jeremy Bícha (jbicha)
         Status: Triaged

** Affects: ubuntucinnamon-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: ubuntukylin-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

** Affects: xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New


** Tags: questing

** Also affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntucinnamon-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntu-budgie-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntu-mate-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntukylin-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Description changed:

- There was an announcement this week that Ubuntu Desktop 25.10 will no
- longer include the Xorg session. Ubuntu Desktop no longer needs xserver-
- xorg in the default install and is working on removing it there. The
- 'xorg' metapackage has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg. 'xorg' is
+ There was an announcement [1] this week that Ubuntu Desktop 25.10 will
+ no longer include the Xorg session. Ubuntu Desktop no longer needs
+ xserver-xorg in the default install and is working on removing it there.
+ The 'xorg' metapackage has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg. 'xorg' is
  included in desktop-common.
  
  Therefore, we need 'xorg' to be removed from desktop-common and
  individually added to all the other Ubuntu desktop flavor seeds.
  
  I believe xorg installs unnecessary components and you might want to
  pick and choose pieces instead. For instance, I don't think most
  desktops need x11-apps or xcursor-themes.
  
  You will need xserver-xorg if you install a session that uses xorg. If
  you also include a Wayland session, you might want to split the Xorg
  session to a separate binary package like Ubuntu Desktop 25.04 did with
  ubuntu-session-xsession to allow people to try uninstalling that package
  to use only the Wayland session.
+ 
+ [1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-10-drops-support-for-gnome-
+ on-xorg/62538

** Also affects: xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

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Title:
  Move xorg dependency from desktop-common to all the desktop flavor
  seeds instead

Status in kubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in lubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntu-budgie-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntu-mate-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in ubuntucinnamon-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntukylin-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntustudio-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in xubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  There was an announcement [1] this week that Ubuntu Desktop 25.10 will
  no longer include the Xorg session. Ubuntu Desktop no longer needs
  xserver-xorg in the default install and is working on removing it
  there. The 'xorg' metapackage has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg.
  'xorg' is included in desktop-common.

  Therefore, we need 'xorg' to be removed from desktop-common and
  individually added to all the other Ubuntu desktop flavor seeds.

  I believe xorg installs unnecessary components and you might want to
  pick and choose pieces instead. For instance, I don't think most
  desktops need x11-apps or xcursor-themes.

  You will need xserver-xorg if you install a session that uses xorg. If
  you also include a Wayland session, you might want to split the Xorg
  session to a separate binary package like Ubuntu Desktop 25.04 did
  with ubuntu-session-xsession to allow people to try uninstalling that
  package to use only the Wayland session.

  [1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-10-drops-support-for-
  gnome-on-xorg/62538

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