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Message #13010
[Bug 2114015] Re: Move xorg dependency from desktop-common to all the desktop flavor seeds instead
Wanted to note that installing plasma-session-x11 does not bring back a working x11 session. The reason is that kwin-x11 is empty (package exists, but contains no binaries)
altough it seems possible to start plasma-wayland on a X11 server (essentially kwin_wayland --x11-display $DISPLAY, it does this by default), this session has no control over the displays and its sizes/changes/whole randr stuff, so it's not feasible.
Don't know what the goal in this case is, but I would either reinclude
kwin-x11 as actual package (not installed by default of course) or
remove plasma-session-x11 entierly.
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Title:
Move xorg dependency from desktop-common to all the desktop flavor
seeds instead
Status in edubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in kubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in kwin package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in lubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Status in magpie package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in plasma-workspace package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in ubuntu-budgie-meta package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Status in ubuntu-mate-meta package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in ubuntucinnamon-meta package in Ubuntu:
Fix Committed
Status in ubuntukylin-meta package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in ubuntustudio-meta package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Status in xubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
New
Bug description:
There was an announcement [1] this week that Ubuntu Desktop 25.10 will
no longer include the Xorg session. Ubuntu Desktop no longer needs
xserver-xorg in the default install and is working on removing it
there. The 'xorg' metapackage has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg.
'xorg' is included in desktop-common.
Therefore, we need 'xorg' to be removed from desktop-common and
individually added to all the other Ubuntu desktop flavor seeds.
I believe xorg installs unnecessary components and you might want to
pick and choose pieces instead. For instance, I don't think most
desktops need x11-apps or xcursor-themes.
You will need xserver-xorg if you install a session that uses xorg. If
you also include a Wayland session, you might want to split the Xorg
session to a separate binary package like Ubuntu Desktop 25.04 did
with ubuntu-session-xsession to allow people to try uninstalling that
package to use only the Wayland session.
[1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-10-drops-support-for-
gnome-on-xorg/62538
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