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[Yann Lossouarn <yann@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

(Sorry Mark, I sent the email to you only by error) See below... :)

-------- Message original --------
Sujet: Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Proposal of new UI element for windows in
Ubuntu: Esfera
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:00:41 +0100
De: Yann Lossouarn <yann@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Pour :: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>
Références: <4BAC51C5.3020002@xxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Ayatana folks,

IMHO, Pablo's proposal mixes too much concepts, or at least it mixes two
concepts (buttons and gestures) that should remain separated. I *love*
mouse gestures (I started using Opera for that unique feature, and
stopped using Opera when FF extensions bringing the mouse gesture
feature were published). But the reason why I love them is precisely
that I don't have to find a button.
And conversely, buttons are great, because they are really simple to use
  (even my 4y/o daughter knows how to click, and my 2y/o son is coming
close ! :) ) and offer visibility to important functions.
As described in Pablo's document, I feel we would lose both gestures'
quickness and buttons' simplicity. Sorry, Pablo, not convinced.

BTW : it seems Mark, David, Ivanka and all are "open to innovation". Did
you consider integrating mouse gestures to Gnome ? It's not *really* an
innovation, true, but very few people know this feature, and it could be
"felt like an innovation".

Cheers,
Yann



Mark Shuttleworth a écrit :
> Hi folks
> 
> Got this interesting proposal from Pablo, and thought it should be sent
> to the list rather than handled in private correspondence. It reminds me
> of something David Siegel was sketching out, also inspired by the
> challenge of "how we can make the most of the new space".
> 
> Pablo, if you're not subscribed to Ayatana, it's the best place to
> sketch out a proposal like this.
> 
> I appreciate both the detail in the proposal and the relaxed way it's
> pitched!
> 
> Mark
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Proposal of new UI element for windows in Ubuntu: Esfera
> Date: 	Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:42:45 +0100
> From: 	Pablo Quirós <mr.polmac@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: 	mark@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Mark, I've got a proposal on the buttons' subject. It is a new
> element to be placed in the free space on the top-right of the windows.
> 
> At first I wasn't very convinced on the UI change, and we exchanged a
> couple of messages on the matter in the related bug report, but I've
> thought about it and I agree with you that this could bring interesting
> possibilities.
> 
> I've designed a concept called Esfera, which I think could be a huge
> step forward to the user experience, while bringing innovation to the
> Ubuntu desktop. The idea is explained in the attached PDF; I hope you
> can take the time to read it or at least send it to the Canonical Design
> team. Sorry for the mockup; I'm a disaster using GIMP, but I hope it
> illustrates the idea.
> 
> I'd be very pleased to answer any question you may have about it. I'd
> just request that if you implement the idea, I appear somewhere as the
> author of the concept, and I've be glad if you kept the name I've chosen.
> 
> Of course, there are lots of ideas that go nowhere, so I'd perfectly
> understand if you consider it useless -- just thought it was good and
> wanted to share it with you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pablo Quirós
> 
> 
> 
> 
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