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[David Siegel <david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think maximize, minimize, and close are taken for granted -- they're
unquestioned assumptions carried over from a dusty desktop computing past.
Frankly, I'm not convinced that any of these buttons are worth the price
paid by users in time spent thinking about how to arrange their windows.

Anyway, that's a separate discussion. I don't think replacing a single-click
to minimize, for example, with a single-click with a pull-and-release is
replacing "direct access" with "indirect access."

When manipulating the other button, hints could be drawn on the screen --
for example, pull to the right and see a nice overlay/silhouette of the
right-maximized state of the window.\

David



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Allan Caeg <allancaeg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Cool. That "other" button can be rendered like a joystick. The idea would
> be disorienting to a lot of people haven't read the manual, though. Perhaps,
> there has to be instructions like a fresh iPhones "hold an icon to drag it
> or remove the application" thing
>
> Allan
>
>
> On Friday, 26 March, 2010 05:46 PM, David Siegel wrote:
>
> Pablo, awesome! I was just sketching something almost exactly like this...
> My concept was a bit simpler but still very sophisticated:
>
>   * Replace Close, Min, Max buttons with just Close and "other"
>   * Dragging the "other" button slightly to the right and releasing
> maximizes the window to full the right half of the screen ("maximize
> right").
>  * Dragging the "other" button slightly to the left and releasing maximizes
> the window to full the left half of the screen ("maximize left").
>   * Dragging down minimizes.
>   * Dragging up maximizes.
>   * Dragging and shaking minimizes all other windows.
>   * Shift-clicking on the "other" button on multiple windows groups them,
> tiling the group and minimizes all other windows when shift is released.
>   * Clicking the "other" button shows a menu with all of the actions above,
> with shapes that demonstrate the associated gestures.
>
> As you can see, featuritis immediately sets in when we have an "other"
> button, but I think we're on to something! Let's continue the discussion and
> see if anyone can help us prototype :)
>
> David
>
> 2010/3/26 Mark Shuttleworth <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> Got this interesting proposal from Pablo, and thought it should be sent to
>> the list rather than handled in private correspondence. It reminds me of
>> something David Siegel was sketching out, also inspired by the challenge of
>> "how we can make the most of the new space".
>>
>> Pablo, if you're not subscribed to Ayatana, it's the best place to sketch
>> out a proposal like this.
>>
>> I appreciate both the detail in the proposal and the relaxed way it's
>> pitched!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Proposal of new UI element
>> for windows in Ubuntu: Esfera  Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:42:45 +0100  From:
>> Pablo Quirós <mr.polmac@xxxxxxxxx> <mr.polmac@xxxxxxxxx>  To:
>> mark@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>  Hello Mark, I've got a proposal on the buttons' subject. It is a new
>> element to be placed in the free space on the top-right of the windows.
>>
>>  At first I wasn't very convinced on the UI change, and we exchanged a
>> couple of messages on the matter in the related bug report, but I've thought
>> about it and I agree with you that this could bring interesting
>> possibilities.
>>
>>  I've designed a concept called Esfera, which I think could be a huge
>> step forward to the user experience, while bringing innovation to the Ubuntu
>> desktop. The idea is explained in the attached PDF; I hope you can take the
>> time to read it or at least send it to the Canonical Design team. Sorry for
>> the mockup; I'm a disaster using GIMP, but I hope it illustrates the idea.
>>
>>  I'd be very pleased to answer any question you may have about it. I'd
>> just request that if you implement the idea, I appear somewhere as the
>> author of the concept, and I've be glad if you kept the name I've chosen.
>>
>>  Of course, there are lots of ideas that go nowhere, so I'd perfectly
>> understand if you consider it useless -- just thought it was good and wanted
>> to share it with you.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Pablo Quirós
>>
>>
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