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[Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>]

thanks for your feedback, Conscious!

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:29, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> The problem is, once the person knows and accepts the fact that the
> bluetooth is on and discoverable, color becomes a nuisance and a
> distraction. The power consumption and discoverability problems
> exist, but I don't think they make the "bluetooth on" case the
> "attention worthy" one. Specially for bluetooth mouse users like me.
>

this i agree with in case of bluetooth mouse usage.
perhaps the choice of permanent usage is a special case that deserves a
permanently dismissable dialog upon its first invocation / per hardware ID,
such as

"you connected a bluetooth mouse." [ ] don't show this message again.


> In my opinion, the importance of having a second wifi adapter is the
> same of having an ethernet in addition the wifi adapter. It is a
> fact I am rarely interested in enough to have it showing in the
> panel all the time. Much more important is the general fact if
> whether I'm connected, doesn't matter to what, or not. If "I haz
> the internetz" or not.
>

for the sake of completeness, i had to bring that one in.
as you stated already it's not crucial or disturbing in any deep way, so we
can safely forget about it for now.


Message indicator:


> I agree. Although the metaphor itself is fine (opened envelope for
> messages read, closed envelope for messages unread), the color
> change was good enough. And the opened icon is too large compared
> to the others.
>

yes, i was referring to icon size primarily.
would be interesting of course to see blue in variation, but green is fine
to me for now.


> > volume indicator:
> > as Luke already envisioned in the thread linked above, red could be
> > used to signal an active recording process. i use voice memos a lot,
> > once i accidentally left it running for quite a long time, no
> > indication of that in the tray. that's a great idea luke presented,
> > which should receive attention now that everybody is concerned with
> > indicators..
>
> That would be nice. However, again I should raise the "don't make
> it annoying" alert here. There's a difference between "recording"
> and "using the microphone".
>

ok, so "audio capture" is the wrong thing to indicate, instead rather
"recording".
similar indication deserves to be placed somewhere for cam activity. in this
case, capture would be justified as point of indication, this could be
configurable or a panel plug-in.


Frankly, I agree. Those usefulness of those additions is minimal
> and not only they break consistency but they are a step in trying
> to make the messaging menu into a jack of all trades, which is
> a scary symptom of "tray icon syndrome" Ayatana is fighting so
> much against.
>

tray icons are there to be highly informative without being "in your face"
all the time.
with all the useful discussion on Ayatana and some other ideas like GNOME
Shell's exposé-like features in the making, we can expect great conceptual
improvement concerning the goal of non-obtrusive communication between the
user and the computer.


> > this is a bit annoying to me, and in the beginning it had me quite
> > confused: it was not even quite clear, what type of message
> > (IM/Broadcast/email) i was going to compose.
>
> This one I disagree with, the separators make that very clear
> to me.
>

power user: sure. standard user: too unintuitive..
if i just look without thinking, the separators make no sense
looking at the "menu" analytically, they make less sense, because the icons
are missing, compared to the other items, and they are not indented or in
any other way different in formatting.


> I'm in favor of removing it completely. The messaging menu
> should be a very polished way of receiving messages only.
>

ok, makes sense


> Disagree. The messages are not supposed to stay there and
> the messaging menu is designed to show a limited number
> of messages per app (which I agree with), so the usefulness
> of this collapsing would be minimal and sounds like doing
> something just for the sake of being able to.
>
>
the triangles are really confusing, they remind too much of expand/collapse
in a filemanager or something.. i'd prefer a different shape, or turning the
respective text item bold-faced.

about using dots like in the MeMenu:

> It would be a wrong consistency, as the dots in the MeMenu
> are semantically a different thing.
>

ya, that was a bit sloppy on my side. even when i would prefer (other) dots
still, since they don't indicate the possibility of expanding some sort of
collapsed list..