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[Tyler Brainerd <tylerbrainerd@xxxxxxxxx>]

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On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Mark Curtis <merkinman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm not sure what "cool maximize behaviour" you're referring to.
> 
I believe he was referring to the maximize behavior which does not max to screen space, but rather, to the size needed to see all of the content of the window.



> As far as the mockup, please make it possible to resize windows from more than just the bottom right corner.
> Obvious comparisons to Mac OS aside (of which there are too many with Ubuntu's recent directions). Only being able to resize in one part of the window versus 8 is extremely limiting.
> 
> > From: dylanmccall@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:33:27 -0700
> > To: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing
> > 
> > Here is yet another discussion on resizing windows, this time driven
> > by status bars!
> > 
> > MacOS has a similar situation to us, with very narrow window borders.
> > In its case, they don't even _try_ to offer resizing by the window
> > edge. (The idea being, I suppose, that any control less than five
> > pixels in any direction will be very difficult to reliably use).
> > Rendering that resizing situation less of an issue, MacOS has the very
> > unusual functionality for expanding windows, and pretty well every
> > window has a client-owned resizing grip in the bottom right.
> > 
> > Gnome has a _similar_ solution in place. We don't have the cool
> > maximize behaviour (and it would probably anger a great number of
> > people if it was implemented), but any window that happens to have a
> > status bar will probably have a resize grip as well. Unfortunately,
> > this resize grip is not a widget you can just drop in easily; it's
> > fused to the status bar widget. (Further demonstrating that the darn
> > things have no objective and should stop being called status bars).
> > 
> > So, here is the problem: there's a plan to get rid of of status bars
> > and replace them with ephemeral hint bars.
> > 
> > And now, I'll bring your attention back to everyone's favourite bug,
> > lp:160311 (“Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is
> > difficult”).
> > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311
> > 
> > The status bar work shouldn't make that bug worse, but in the current
> > direction it will.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I discussed a possible solution for this somewhere, and nobody really
> > gathered what I was babbling about. To fix that, I finally made a
> > quick mockup today…
> > 
> > http://people.ubuntu.com/~dylanmccall/mockups/metacity-resize-control/mockup.html
> > 
> > That describes a visible resize control drawn by the window manager.
> > It should fade in when the user moves the mouse near a window's bottom
> > right corner. It should only appear for the window that is in the
> > foreground. Clicking it would do the same thing as clicking and
> > dragging the corner of a window's border, except there's a lot more to
> > click and much more meaningful visual feedback.
> > It does miss a critical detail, of course, but I, err, never saved the
> > SVG. The resize control should go _behind_ the window, not in front of
> > it. That way it sticks out from the window but doesn't interfere with
> > anything in the client area. (As drawn there, it would become very
> > difficult for some people to use scroll bars).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sure there are some other clever solutions here! Maybe even some
> > plans attached to the Windicators / Hint bars work :)
> > So, I am curious to know: is there anything happening in this space?
> > Should there be?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Dylan
> > 
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