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hi conscious,

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 16:58, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Discussions about an eventual "progress indicator" aside, I think
> this is the kind of thing modal dialogs are meant to eliminate.
>
> http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gnome-shell-modal-dialogs.png<http://people.freedesktop.org/%7Edavid/gnome-shell-modal-dialogs.png>


thanks a lot, that's cool!

about the window dragging (handle)... been testing Unity for a bit now, MPT
said it before..
there is a great necessity to begin differenciating properly between what is
a full fledged window, and what is *something else* ;)
The main reason in Unity that i see for this differenciation would be,
AppMenu, which should be reserved for Suites and Integrated Environments, i
would call these "Main Applications".

for a chat conversation, all i would need is a borderless rectangle that i
can move with the mouse. i don't need a minimize button on it, don't need a
titlebar either, and most certainly no application menu, since closing it
would only hide the conversation back into the imaginary Contact Menu it
came from, and chat is so simple a procedure that all necessary options can
be contained inside the conversation window, no need for an ancient
appliation menu.

there are more examples of this, e.g. Calculator, which should also dump its
application menu and act like a desklet, instead of fooling itself into
believing it is a full fledged suite that deserves to have a window and an
application menu.
Most of the application menus i see out there are only there for the sake of
being there, we don't really need them.

who's up to completing the following lists?

apps that need not appmenu:
* Calculator
* Tomboy
* Chat conversations
* System Monitor  (running processes)
* ?

apps that still need their appmenu:
* Evolution
* OpenOffice.org
* Firefox
* Nautilus
* ?

Regarding the various configuration dialogs and preferences windows we have,
i'm sure there's more to discuss also:
e.g. Network Manager or Empathy Suite if there was any, or Sound
Preferences, Appearance Preferences, or About Me.