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Message #04351
Re: "fileless" paradigm
I'm not entirely sure this pertains to this particular conversation, but
here is my take on it:
I think that, instead of depending on users to sort their files by
themselves, there should instead be a Home directory where *everything* gets
put Then, when they open Nautilus (or Dash, etc.) they would still be
presented the conventional view of their Home directory, but, the folders
would instead be meta folders, sorting the content on the fly.
So, say a user download three videos and and song and half downloads a
fourth movie. When they went into Nautilus, they would see all the folders
we currently see, but those folders would not technically exist. When the
user clicks on the "Videos" meta-folder, the file browser automatically
sorts the pool of files in the Home folder and displays only video files.
When the user clicks "Music," the song file appears. When they click
"Downloads," all the files they download recently show as well as any
partial downloads.
This would save users having to worry about where they put that file when
they chose to save it or such as it would automatically be sorted to the
most logical place by the system. Then, for more granular control on a
per-file basis, I think dependence on applications would be better. (Using
Banshee to fix up the meta-data for your music, Shotwell for photos, etc.)
Well, that's my idea anyway.
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Roberto Guido <bob4job@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 13:02 +0100, frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > any more variations of this [CONTAINER] - [CONTENT] metaphor?
> >
> Lobotomy - http://lobotomy-project.org/
> The basic concept: container-less browsing, no folders, only "queries"
> against the store (of course managed and assisted by the user interface,
> not everyone can write SQL or SPARQL every time he needs a
> content ;-) ).
> That has been a "conceptual" project of mine for several years, and had
> many evolutions; not many code has been produced, just some document and
> elucubration now scattered all over the web.
>
> > Which concept can serve these needs?
> >
> I think enforcing "search" against "browsing" could be a good
> compromise: we need files just because we cannot imagine any other form
> of contents aggregation (we need to put the bytes somewhere...), but
> today we already have tools to go after folders.
> Desktop indexing is a reality, but barely used by user applications:
> both Tracker and Nepomuk are available and stable, I can count very
> little project running over them. If massively used and integrated in
> the DE, the user could forget folders and just search what needed from
> time to time instead of browsing his own folder hierarchy.
> For example, the "Save" option can just become "save those contents in a
> directory choosen by software, not by me, and index it so I can retrieve
> it". A Spotlight-like application can completely substitute the file
> manager, and we already have specific examples of folder-less contents
> navigation ( http://live.gnome.org/Soylent ).
>
>
>
> p.s.: I was one of the Itsme developers ;-)
> http://itsme.it/news/2009/02/09/we-doubled-our-tech-force/
>
> --
> Roberto -MadBob- Guido
> http://claimid.com/madbob
>
>
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"fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-11-12
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: Appi, 2010-11-12
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-11-13
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: David Stevenson, 2010-11-13
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: cmaglothin, 2010-11-13
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: Jonathan Meek, 2010-11-14
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-11-14
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Re: "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
From: Jonathan Meek, 2010-11-22
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-11-23
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-12-12
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: Felipe Erias Morandeira, 2010-12-12
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: Christian Giordano, 2010-12-13
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx, 2010-12-14
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Re: "fileless" paradigm
From: Roberto Guido, 2010-12-14