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[Carl Simpson <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx>]

Oops.  Didn't send this the list.  (Sorry Mr. Lone, you're gonna get this
twice. :/)

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From: Carl Simpson <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2011/1/19
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] App Name as a Menu
To: hello@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


“Remove or Upgrade”

You've got update-manager to handle upgrades without the user ever having to
volunteer their time to that.

Software Centre allows you to remove stuff.

I don't think removing and upgrading are such frequent behaviours as to
justify such a forward facing presence.

I would also take exception to the "add to launcher" bit, as the launcher is
where I'd go to see about things on it.  As it happens, that's where the
add-to-launcher functionality has been put by Canonical's wise and great
designers, too.

Screenshotting seems extremely niche a want, too.  `gnome-screenshot
--interactive`, which is called something like "Screenshot Tool" by name,
handles selecting a particular window to screenshot, and is installed by
default.

Not all applications support proper full screening, either (e.g. pidgin,
nautilus).

Also, screenshotting, fullscreening, etc, are window specific, where as the
title there is only *app* specific.  When I go to, say, "Pidgin >
screenshot", or "Firefox > fullscreen", which window does it mean?
Presumably the active one, but that seems like a UI incongruity.

2011/1/18 Owais Lone <hello@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
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>> Owais Lone wrote on 15/01/11 14:03:
>> >
>> > I was just wondering if we could replace the window title in the panel
>> > with an application menu like firefox. Since we are also trying to move
>> > away from a menu bars, I think this could be a nice addition to the
>> > Unity desktop.
>>
>> We aren't moving away from menu bars, and even if we were, adding
>> another menu wouldn't help. :-)
>>
>> >                This would also allow apps like Firefox and Opera to
>> > push their new menu buttons in the panel/titlebar in a sane way.
>> >...
>>
>> The designers of Firefox and Opera are trying to reduce the amount of
>> stuff inside their windows.
>>
>> Compressing them into a menu button is one way of doing that.
>>
>> A simpler and more consistent way, for an application running on Ubuntu,
>> is to use the native Ubuntu menu bar.
>>
>>
>> I really want the app management commands to be easily and quickly
> available. Like Autostart, Remove or Upgrade. We can add these shortcuts to
> quite a few places  like the launcher quicklist or dash itself but IMO it
> would be best to have these functions in the appmenu I'm proposing.
>
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