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["M. Adnan Quaium" <adnan.quaium@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Paul,

In responses to your question, well ... no I do not have any world class
contacts in the genres you mentioned. On the other hand, somehow I've some
Ubuntu newbies (some of them are converted to Ubuntu by me and some of get
acquainted with me after using Ubuntu), who think Ubuntu's default icon
theme is still 10 years old 'XPish'. And I get the same remark from anyone
who is using Vista/7. Occasionally, I need to use Windows 7 and MacOSX, and
Ubuntu's icon set looks really dull while using those.

I somehow solve this problem by using Faenza Icon themes. So when I install
Ubuntu in someone's computer, the first thing I do is to install Faenza
(even before installing restricted extras). I donot know whether the guys
behind Faenza are world class but they really did an amazing job.

I suggested the idea of new icon set, from the point of end user's point of
view (I am an end user too). End users do not acquaint with the
developers/designers. The acquaint with the OS they are using. They can only
make suggestion to the community for a betterment of their favorite OS. The
community makes the further decisions of approving or rejecting the
suggestion.

I am not aware of any project of changing the default icons. So I just made
that suggestion, to let the community know it would be a good idea to have a
new unique default icon set for Ubuntu. If there is such any project, then
it is a great news. If there is not any, the team can take the initiative or
can discuss on the fact that whether a new icon set is necessary or not.
It'll take time, I agree, but at some point we need to start about thinking
of that.


- Adnan


On 15 March 2011 18:51, Paul Sladen <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello Peterson and Adnan,
>
> I suspect the answer to these are much along the same lines as
> something I gave on AskUbuntu recently, to a question about the fonts:
>
>  "Will there be a Ubuntu Serif font in the future?"
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/26104/will-there-be-a-ubuntu-serif-font-in-the-future
>
> The answer here is that it depends not only on time and enthusiasm
> but finding very skilled people and getting them involved---with their
> background knowledge and experience.  For doing a full Ubuntu Serif
> companion font expansion, I suggested that perhaps means:
>
>  1 Find a type designer who is interested
>  2 Work with them to make a beautiful, complementary and hinted expansion
>
> It'll take a while too; before you could even start such a process
> (which will take a *long* time) it would be necessary to understand
> the background.  What is it _for_?  Why would it be done/re-done?
>
> Lots of people can draw icons, or create sounds or make fonts; but
> will the results fit together?  Will they be beautiful as a whole? If
> we here working on Ayatana want to push the state of people's
> computering experiences forward then there's not much point making
> fonts, icons, sounds or backgrounds "for the sake of it".  They need
> to definitely improve on what is there already there and we need to be
> able to scientifically prove that that is the case.
>
> Once that research and development is done in Ayatana (which will
> benefit everyone), you can start to think about the Ubuntu case.
> The Ubuntu desktop and brand is a jigsaw of many parts.  Admittedly
> not all of those parts fit perfectly at the moment, but if you change
> one piece only; the piece next to it might not fit as well.
>
> If you want something to happen and care about it, the best approach
> is probably to find the people with the skills and get them interested
> in what Ubuntu is---what it's doing and how they can help make a
> difference to millions of people's computing lives everyday.  The
> sooner one can find the right people, the sooner your and other
> people's dreams can come true!
>
> You've each suggested icons and sounds.  Do you have any world-class
> contacts in those genres?  Contacts capable of /not/ just designing
> sounds or icons, but those who can create guides /for creating/
> icons or sounds and prove why the changes are an improvement over
> what's available!
>
>        -Paul
>
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