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[Spike Burch <spikeb@xxxxxxxxx>]

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From: Spike Burch <spikeb@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Novell Evolution, and just how awesome it is.
To: ikt@xxxxxxxxx


Part of the problem is that the rest of the email clients available
also suck, and evolution is the only one (that i am aware of) that
integrates with exchange

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:43 AM,  <ikt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Some prominent software featured in Ubuntu as currently reviewed in the
> Ubuntu Software Centre:
>
> Chromium - 4.5 | 69 ratings
> Firefox - 4.5/5 | 44 ratings
> Banshee - 4.5/5 | 38 ratings
> LibreOffice Writer - 4.5/5 | 14 ratings
> Shotwell - 4.5/5 | 12 ratings
> Transmission Bittorrent Client - 4.5/5 | 12 ratings
> Ubuntu One - 3.5/5 | 17 ratings
> Evolution - 3.5/5 | 15 ratings
>
> At the end of the list what are the key differences between the Ubuntu One
> rating and Evolution rating?
>
> People reviewing Ubuntu One are almost polar opposites, it's either 5/5
> awesome or 2/5 buggy and lacking features, you can fix bugs and you can
> implement missing features, in fact one of the 2/5's was commenting on a
> missing feature that is being implemented and tested right now (windows
> support), there is a lot of positive press that Ubuntu One in 11.04 is a
> massive improvement from Ubuntu One in 10.10, so I can see Ubuntu One
> improving from here on.
>
> The review feedback about Evolution doesn't inspire confidence, "good try
> but useless", this is the same opinion you can find from 6 YEARS AGO.*
>
> If we pretend that LibreOffice Writer had one job and that was to replace
> Microsoft Word 2010 from head to toe, as it stands even if they only
> implement 50% of that, it is still a fully functional document writer, that
> has more features than other document editors and is a pleasure to use, even
> though it doesn't fully replace Word 100%, what it does do, it does it well.
>
> Another example is Audacious, it was very similar to Winamp and while it
> doesn't fully replicate Winamp on Ubuntu (and it never intended to), those
> who use it feel that what it does do, it does well.
>
> A bigger example could be Google Chrome, when it first came out did it have
> all the features of Firefox or Internet Explorer? Not even close, but damn
> it was fast, and a pleasure to use, that by itself made it end up on so many
> people's desktops.
>
> Evolution is attempting to do many things, and failing at all of them, even
> partially implemented things.
>
> "Evolution proved sluggish and unreliable, and lacks all of the surrounding
> features that I’ve come to rely upon so desperately."**
>
> If you want fast email not tied to a desktop, Gmail is there, if you want a
> solid email experience with a desktop client, Thunderbird is there, if you
> want an Outlook replacement, Evolution will attempt to help you but
> ultimately fail miserably, and if you try and use the basic features it does
> implement you'll find a horrible experience compared to other email clients.
>
> The question then becomes, what's the point of this software in the first
> place? If it can't do what it's supposed to do, what's the point of having
> it there?
>
> "I always remove this from my Ubuntu installations.  I find no use for it. I
> suppose if you were forced to use a Microsoft Exchange system there might be
> some justification, but thankfully I don't."
>
> At this point I really only have one thing to say: Why does the Ubuntu team
> continue to include awesome applications that people enjoy using, but still
> includes evolution despite the continual assurance from users that it DOES
> NOT meet users expectations***.
>
> Maybe you guys are looking at a different evolution client to me?
>
> thanks
>
> - ikt
>
> * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36530 <- "Evolution is a rubbish
> email client" May 24th, 2005
> **http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/11/running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu-the-verdict/
> "Running PC Pro on Ubuntu: the verdict" - February 11th, 2011
> *** read: sucks
>
> ps. Since Greg Kroah-Hartman appears to work at the same company that
> produce the evolution client, I was wondering if he could get some people to
> work on it, you know, give back to the community that has managed to include
> the software that so many people hate as the primary email client for so
> damn long. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
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