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[Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>]

> You are missing my point, with Empathy focused, try closing the
> maximized window. There is the problem, the maximized window should
> have it's controls in it's titlebar like it normally does, like every
> other window does, but it doesn't.

Bu the panel is dynamic. The title/menu contents of the panel only relate to
the focused window. Both of my non-tech-savvy parents figured this out very
quickly, and they like the behavior. They did have issue with the
application name in the panel (Which is an understandable issue), but they
were still very able to function.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:16, Luke Benstead <kazade@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 15 April 2011 16:08, nick rundy <nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> This is where the whole thing falls apart quite epically. Now visually
> >> the panel is the titlebar of the maximized window, but the contents of
> >> it are the focused window, which is likely not the same window. It's a
> >> complete WTF? moment and I still think it is ridiculous and confusing.
> >
> >
> > I don't find it confusing at all. (Assuming I am fully understanding what
> > you are describing), I did not have any problems acclimating to this
> design.
> > I found it quite intuitive actually.
> >
>
> The panel is now the titlebar of the maximized window, yet it has the
> title of the focused window... how is that not confusing?
>
> >> The worst part of it is that in this situation, the maximized window
> >> controls can't just be left where where they SHOULD be, where the user
> >> EXPECTS them to be, because the panel has the title and menu of the
> >> focused window and it'll be near impossible to tell which window would
> >> be closed or resized by clicking them.
> >
> >
> > I do not understand you here. I had no problems whatsoever figuring out
> > "which window would be closed or resized." When maximized the controls
> are
> > merged. clicking the buttons affects the maximized window. When not
> > maximized, the controls are not present in the panel. The controls are
> > exactly where I expect them to be.
> >
> > I found the global menus intuitive as well. The panel tells what the
> focused
> > app is.  move the mouse to the area and menus are present. You can also
> hit
> > F10 to use the menus.
> >
> > I don't agree with your assessment. Or I don't understand what you are
> > describing.
> >
> > I opened up Empathy. It works like everything else. What exactly is the
> > problem? Window not maximmized = controls on the unmaxmized window.
> Menubar
> > on the panel. Panel displays the apps name wehn mouse is not over the
> panel.
> >
>
> You are missing my point, with Empathy focused, try closing the
> maximized window. There is the problem, the maximized window should
> have it's controls in it's titlebar like it normally does, like every
> other window does, but it doesn't.
>
> Luke.
>
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