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[Carl Simpson <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx>]

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html

You can also use the classic gnome session if you want to use the old panel
applets.

Offering a new shell by default, with certain default options, is hardly
limiting you, or offering you the proverbial highway.

2011/4/15 Biturica <biturica@xxxxxxxxx>

>  It's beginning to feel like a lot of us were involuntarily shifted out of
> Ubuntu's demographic overnight.
>
> The titlebar being a waste of space is totally subjective and a matter of
> opinion. But it is my-way-or-the-highway opinions like this that are now
> driving the new one-size-fits-all philosphy of Canonical and Ubuntu fanboys.
>
> I would be all for trying out having application menus moved into a
> drop-down in the window control / title bar, for all windows, regardless of
> whether maximized or not, and regardless of where I place my panel / dock /
> whatever we calling it this week (horizontal, vertical, one panel, two
> panels, etc). Some of us don't want application menus and window titles
> limiting what I can have on our panels.
>
> And even this drop-down application menu in the window title bar should be
> a toggle-able setting. Don't tell users what to do. If a user with two 30
> inch monitors wants to retain menu bars inside application windows, there is
> no reason to take that away from a user.
>
> This would retain more respect for users who already have preferred working
> habits, large screens, multiple monitors, etc. A lot of us are content with
> "window" having a meaning and "panel" having a separate meaning. Bored
> designers should just tweak their own desktops. Then when they are
> experiencing a fit of one-size-fits-all thinking, they won't hurt anybody.
>
>
>
> On 04/15/2011 11:41 AM, nick rundy wrote:
>
> I agree with Ian.
>
> I do NOT want a maximized window to have a separate titlebar. I want the
> maximized window's controls to be merged into the panel.  The titlebar is an
> enormous waste of space. IMHO it is useless. When a user maximizes a window,
> space is needed.
>
> Once people take some time and get used to this new design, they will
> understand it and like it better. It makes a lot more sense than the old way
> of doing things.
>
>
>
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