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[Marco Biscaro <marcobiscaro2112@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think this is not implemented beacuse the lack of consistency.

Most users will have just one window of each application opened at same
time. So, they will conclude that a click on launcher will minimize the
window. When they open two windows of the same application and click the
icon, the window(s) will not be minimized (so, a lot of bugs will be
reported - something like: 'sometimes the minimize does not work!!!').

IMO, this will just confuse users...

On Ter, 2011-04-19 at 16:45 +0200, Xavier Guillot wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> IMHO, I'd like that if only 1 windows of an application is opened and
> visible, click on the dock icon minimizes it, too.
> 
> When more than 1 window is open, whether are they all visible or not,
> click on the icon should display the miniatures of all windows, like
> it does now, but put on the right side / bottom the current window,
> and show on the top left the other ones - if we want to switch to
> another window, the best is to have less mouse movement to do, so
> having the other one(s) very close to the dock, for the moment it is
> not the case...
> 
> Xavier.
> 
> On 19/04/2011 16:15, Marco Biscaro wrote: 
> 
> > Ian, I think you're right.
> > 
> > applications != windows
> > 
> > An application can have zero or more windows. I think the question
> > here is consistency:
> > 
> > If your application has just one window, when you click on the
> > launcher icon, this window will minimize. But if you have 3 opened
> > windows to that application? What should happen when you click the
> > launcher icon if:
> > 
> > 1. All windows are visible?
> > 2. Two windows are visible and one is already minimized?
> > 3. One window is visible and two are already minimized?
> > 4. All windows are minimized?
> > 
> > Considering that there is just one icon per application, I think the
> > best way to minimize a window is to click the minimize button of
> > that window. If I'm not mistaken, this why clicking on launcher
> > icons doesn't minimize windows.
> > 
> > Besides this, If you want to organize your windows, you can use the
> > workspaces to arrange them. And use <Super>+D to show desktop if
> > needed.
> > 
> > On Ter, 2011-04-19 at 07:30 -0600, Ian Santopietro wrote:
> > 
> > > It was my understanding that the launcher  icons only represent
> > > apps, and since an app can't really be minimized (only windows of
> > > that app), they don't do it.  It works with Gnome 2 because the
> > > list was a list of windows. It would be clicking on a Gnome 2
> > > shortcut and having the windows of that app minimize.
> > > 
> > > I might be wrong here though.
> > > 
> > > On Apr 19, 2011 7:19 AM, "Bazon" <bazonbloch@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [Bug 733349] Re: Natty: Unity launcher buttons should
> > > allow to 
> > > > minimize apps, not just launch/restore
> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:45:08 -0000
> > > > From: Michael <733349@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Reply-To: Bug 733349 <733349@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm sure that if you ask on the Ayatana mailing list they will
> > > be happy
> > > > 
> > > >> to explain, and perhaps to discuss, the reasoning.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > OK, so here we go:
> > > > Why isn't it possible any more to minimize windows when clicking
> > > a further time on the button which represents the application?
> > > > That was possible with the Gnome Panel Window Switcher, it is
> > > possible in the XFCE taskbar, it is possible in Cairo-Dock, it is
> > > possible with the MS Windows taskbar and probably many more.
> > > > 
> > > > So why break users expectations?
> > > > You leave the experienced user in frustration while the
> > > inexperienced user will not be mocked by minimizing on an extra
> > > click he probably never makes.
> > > > (Showing and hiding a window quick by clicking two times on the
> > > icon/switcher is a very common practice.)
> > > > 
> > > > I believe it's generally not a good idea that clicking on an
> > > interactive element of your screen leads to NOTHING.
> > > > 
> > > > Some users will wonder whether their system is responding slow,
> > > experienced users who are used to the minimize behaviour will miss
> > > it.
> > > > (and you know, many of them are already frustrated enough losing
> > > Gnome 2 features.....)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So please reconsider allowing minimizing windows by clicking on
> > > the launcher.
> 
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