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Re: reduce the font and ui size!

 

Yes, but normal newbie user don't know that tool such as GNOME Tweak Tool exist. When they are said to download and use it, they may be horrified that such small tool installs packages such as mutter, mesa, alacarte, gnome-panel, gnome-shell and so on and takes about 80 megabytes after installation.

And speaking about size - Ubuntu 10 is just more readable (spacing is a lot better). Windows are smaller, so they take a lot less space (which is needed on for example netbooks). Some Windows doesn't even fit the screen and if a newbie user don't know about alt-drag, he won't be able to set up mail account in Evolution. Ubutnu 10 looks a lot clearer sharper with default hinting, too. This isn't exactly a font size issue, but font readability. This could be fixed by better rendering of Ubuntu 11.

W dniu 2011-10-17 18:11, Ian Santopietro pisze:
I've only ever seen one person adjust the font size on any OS, Ubuntu
or otherwise. This person needed the font larger so that he could see
easier, and a basic font-size setting is present in "Universal Access"
for people with such needs. Other users *shouldn't* need to adjust
their font size,

Here are the dependencies for gnome-tweak-tool:

ian@Callum:~$ apt-cache depends gnome-tweak-tool
gnome-tweak-tool
  |Depends: python2.7
   Depends: python2.6
   Depends: python
   Depends: python
   Depends: gnome-shell
   Depends: gsettings-desktop-schemas
ian@Callum:~$

The only dependency that isn't installed by default is gnome-shell.
Together with gnome-tweak-tool, installing it uses slightly more than
5.5 MB on disk. It will not change any settings nor will it cause
gnome-shell to be used instead of Unity, and thus installation has a
minimal effect on the system.

On top of all of this, gnome-tweak-tool isn't any more third-party
than the default control center, as both are developed by gnome
upstream. It comes from a reputable source and has a minimal effect on
a system. Given this, I would find it hard to route resources away
from active development in needed areas to develop a suitable
replacement, when such a replacement would only find a niche market
anyway.

Also, we use slight hinting by default because on most monitors, it is
most accurate to the shapes of the font. Settings for changing the
hinting style are also found in the Tweak tool.

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:26, Eylem Koca<eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Normally, I would agree with having to install a third-party app to fine
tune a very deep and minor system setting, but "font size" is not such a
setting and I completely disagree with your position here. We have all been
criticizing Gnome-Shell for being non-customizable and were hoping Ubuntu
could improve on that although they use the same Gnome backend. I understand
not having the man-power to implement this but please don't give the sorry
excuse of "most people...".

Eylem



On 10/16/11 2:45 AM, Ian Santopietro wrote:

No. It does appeal to some people, but the large majority have no
preferences to what the font size is. If you want to change font settings to
your liking, you can do this from the gnome-tweak-tool application. You can
install it from the software center.

On Oct 15, 2011 1:56 PM, "Tomasz Sałaciński"<tsalacinski@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

I agree with this in 100%.

W dniu 15.10.2011 20:58, charlesalva@xxxxxxxxx pisze:

dear unity developer team,

could you please reduce the default font and ui size of unity and ubuntu
overall, they really taking much screen real estate, or at least give us
option to reduce the dpi or ppi setting like the one in windows.

after playing with unity and ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10, and changing back to
windows, it feels that windows font and ui size are much better, perhaps
because it's smaller. for people who love big size font and ui still could
enlarge them from dpi or ppi setting. in windows there's a 96% ppi, 100%
ppi, and 125% ppi. i also believe in mac osx, the font and ui size are
almost identical small with windows.

with all due respect, we're still young, perhaps the bigger one for the
old folks, i know my boss love the bigger font size since he is 50+ years
old. at least make it more attractive with younger audience.

i often to reduce font size in gnome classic to get the point as windows
font and ui size, but somehow they still look big for monitors under
1920x1080 resolution. :(

i've been quite a long ubuntu users since 7.04 up until now. our office
use ubuntu as their primary os up to the end 2010 and changed back to
windows due to back office program changing.

though unity has great appearance, i find it hard to use when opening
multi applications and change them back and forth. gotta love the old task
bar on top or below. the side bar is really short due to all monitor tends
to have shorter vertical pixel.

anyway, keep up the good work, looking forward to 12.04 lts version! hope
the UI experience will be much smoother and more polished.


kind regards,


/charles
everytime i get ahead, i feel more dead.


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