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Dear All, I forgot to give my screenshot, the windows font and ui size in my opinion is better than ubuntu as you may look in the attached. Hope this helps. Kind regards, /charles everytime i get ahead, i feel more dead. 2011/10/20 Tomasz Sałaciński <tsalacinski@xxxxxxxxx> > They are *slightly* harder to read because they're very small (9pt). Ubuntu > should use Ubuntu 10, not 11. Remember, that such huge font makes working on > smaller screens very annoying (no window will fit the screen, or will force > user to scroll/move windows), working on bigger screen makes fonts very, > very big. > > W dniu 2011-10-20 16:34, Ian Santopietro pisze: > >> The letters in the Segoe example run together, and in My opinion are a >> bit harder to read than the Ubuntu example. In addition to this, they >> look clearer because of improper hinting settings, which detracts from >> the visual appearance of the characters and also makes them harder to >> read. >> >> 2011/10/20 Tomasz Sałaciński<tsalacinski@gmail.**com<tsalacinski@xxxxxxxxx> >> >: >> >>> I've created such a comparsion. >>> >>> First label shows default monospace font in Windows and in Ubuntu >>> (gedit). >>> >>> Second label (Setup is loading...) shows Windows interface font (setup >>> program) compared to Ubuntu interface font (made in Glade). >>> >>> See how much Windows fonts are clearer and take a lot less space than >>> Ubuntu >>> fonts. 90% of computer users in the world don't have any problem with >>> size >>> that Windows uses (I think they spent a lot more money on research what >>> font >>> size they should be using) - let's say 10% of them change the size of the >>> font. It still leaves 80% of world computer users satisfied (maybe more, >>> not >>> counting Macs) with the font we see in Windows. Even with a lot less >>> userbase MORE Ubuntu users are complaining about font size. >>> >>> Imagine when reading a source code file in gedit you have to scroll every >>> few lines.. then you have to find where you've left reading. It hurts >>> your >>> eyes and makes using of computer a simple pain in the backside. >>> >>> Of coure - Ubuntu 11 looks fancy. But users will do more than looking at >>> the >>> screenshots. If they see that the system is useless except for listening >>> to >>> music, watching videos and browsing Facebook - they just stick to using >>> Windows. With such big fonts and additional padding, windows in Ubuntu >>> are a >>> lot bigger than in other systems. If this is by design, then the design >>> is >>> simply completely wrong. You can't satisfy all users, but you should try >>> satisfying most user's needs, instead of personal preferences of the >>> designers. >>> >>> W dniu 2011-10-20 15:00, Thibaut Brandscheid pisze: >>> >>>> >>>> 2011/10/17 Matthew Paul Thomas<mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What would help here is for someone to make a screenshot comparison >>>> of >>>> the same windows, laid out in exactly the same positions, on Ubuntu, >>>> Windows, and OS X. >>>> >>>> .... >>>> >>>> We might find that the problem is partly font size, but partly also >>>> size and padding of interface controls. >>>> >>>> >>>> Here are two similar images showing the file browser and text editor >>>> in Windows 7 and Ubuntu Oneiric. >>>> >>>> * Ubuntu<http://image-upload.de/**image/KUAqjL/28a9103bae.png<http://image-upload.de/image/KUAqjL/28a9103bae.png> >>>> > >>>> * Windows 7<http://image-upload.de/**image/uyfCCE/e1bc89e7fa.png<http://image-upload.de/image/uyfCCE/e1bc89e7fa.png> >>>> > >>>> >>>> Padding (buttons) and font size are smaller and therefore the interface >>>> looks& feels cleaner in Windows 7. Thats the reason why smaller windows >>>> >>>> seems to be more useful in Windows than in Ubuntu (compared same sized >>>> windows). >>>> >>>> Traditionally GNOME has a lot of padding (negative example → Totem >>>> controls) and wasts a lot of screen space (has been reduced a bit last >>>> cycles). >>>> >>>> So what to do? >>>> >>>> * Analise every default application UI if they need that big buttons >>>> and that much padding/margin >>>> o use the same padding/margin in every application if possible >>>> * Reduce padding and font size - just a bit → huge difference >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Thibaut >>>> >>>> PS: If anybody uses Ubuntu, Win& and Mac and could make more comparison >>>> >>>> screenshots it would be awesome. >>>> I use Windows only for gaming → my Wintendoo ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>>> Post to : ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tomasz Sałaciński >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>> Post to : ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- > Tomasz Sałaciński > > ______________________________**_________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >
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