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[Roland Taylor <rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx>]

If Ubuntu-Tweak is broken in that manner, then why don't we fix it and 
include it. I still don't see how your arguments against inclusion are 
truly valid. For one thing, we can disable the Computer Janitor plugin 
by default. Furthermore, IIRC, it does not work the same way as the 
previous one that cause so much confusion and damage for users.

Secondly, as for scrolling on items, while that is a valid (if unlikely) 
problem, the solution is simply to put a button next to options that can 
scroll that will cause for the option to be reset. That's a super simple 
fix (it's the same thing you get in CCSM, which IMO should also be 
included by default after getting some love to make it look better; and 
should just simply be invisible to users in the menu by default).

If you ask me, the only reason why they are not being included is 
because of the previous problems with space on the CD, which is now a 
joke because we've switched to DVDs and USBs.
> I don't think it's particularly true that, "Ubuntu Tweak and similar 
> tools (concerning Unity) will not break anything".
>
> Ubuntu Tweak still offers "computer janitor" which has been known to 
> confuse many end users, and even further if you "hover" the mouse 
> pointer in the wrong area in some "tweak areas" and "scroll" you can 
> easily change things with no obvious way to restore defaults.
>
> Don't get me wrong, it's a great tool. I love using it to play with 
> themes in Gnome 3, regardless of DE, but it's far from mature enough 
> to be included in the repos.
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/14/11, Roland Taylor /<rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Roland Taylor <rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx>
>     Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Tweak
>     To: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 10:17 PM
>
>     I respectfully disagree. The options that can be tweaked from
>     Ubuntu Tweak and similar tools (concerning Unity) will not break
>     anything, and for the most part can be changed on the fly (without
>     restarting that is).
>
>     There is no reason not to include such a tool by default.
>
>     On 12/14/2011 05:00 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
>     > I think the theory here is that users who want to do it
>     generally know (or can find out) how to install these tools, and
>     those who could break something won't have the option visible.
>     >
>     > -- Ian Santopietro
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>     >
>     > On Wed 14 Dec 2011 01:27:05 PM MST, Christian Rupp wrote:
>     >> The options to change unity are very rarely installed by default...
>     >> Wouldn't it be nice to implement the tweaks options for apperance
>     >> somewhere in the system settings?
>     >>
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