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[Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>]

myUnity would be Mich more appropriate, and it will be in the repositories
for 12.04. Again, since installing it will not require adding any PPAs,
thus making it _very_ easy to install for users who want it, this would
solve the problem for most users.

--
Ian Santopietro

"Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended"

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On Dec 17, 2011 5:23 PM, "Omar B." <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  I think myUnity would be more appropriate than ubuntu-tweak.
>
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-tweak-tool-myunity-gets-new-look-coming-to-ubuntu-software-centre/
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:16:24 -0400
> From: rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx
> To: lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Tweak
>
> If Ubuntu-Tweak is broken in that manner, then why don't we fix it and
> include it. I still don't see how your arguments against inclusion are
> truly valid. For one thing, we can disable the Computer Janitor plugin by
> default. Furthermore, IIRC, it does not work the same way as the previous
> one that cause so much confusion and damage for users.
>
> Secondly, as for scrolling on items, while that is a valid (if unlikely)
> problem, the solution is simply to put a button next to options that can
> scroll that will cause for the option to be reset. That's a super simple
> fix (it's the same thing you get in CCSM, which IMO should also be included
> by default after getting some love to make it look better; and should just
> simply be invisible to users in the menu by default).
>
> If you ask me, the only reason why they are not being included is because
> of the previous problems with space on the CD, which is now a joke because
> we've switched to DVDs and USBs.
>
>   I don't think it's particularly true that, "Ubuntu Tweak and similar
> tools (concerning Unity) will not break anything".
>
> Ubuntu Tweak still offers "computer janitor" which has been known to
> confuse many end users, and even further if you "hover" the mouse pointer
> in the wrong area in some "tweak areas" and "scroll" you can easily change
> things with no obvious way to restore defaults.
>
> Don't get me wrong, it's a great tool. I love using it to play with themes
> in Gnome 3, regardless of DE, but it's far from mature enough to be
> included in the repos.
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/14/11, Roland Taylor <rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx><rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx>
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Roland Taylor <rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx> <rolandixor@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Tweak
> To: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 10:17 PM
>
> I respectfully disagree. The options that can be tweaked from Ubuntu Tweak
> and similar tools (concerning Unity) will not break anything, and for the
> most part can be changed on the fly (without restarting that is).
>
> There is no reason not to include such a tool by default.
>
> On 12/14/2011 05:00 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote:
> > I think the theory here is that users who want to do it generally know
> (or can find out) how to install these tools, and those who could break
> something won't have the option visible.
> >
> > -- Ian Santopietro
> >
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> > "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast
> > Ofer middangeard monnum sended"
> >
> > Pa gur yv y porthaur?
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> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x412F52DB1BBF1234
> >
> >
> > On Wed 14 Dec 2011 01:27:05 PM MST, Christian Rupp wrote:
> >> The options to change unity are very rarely installed by default...
> >> Wouldn't it be nice to implement the tweaks options for apperance
> >> somewhere in the system settings?
> >>
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