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[shane lee <shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree and it is in stark contrast to Dolphin, which KDE are putting a lot
of time and effort into.

I'm not really sure what can be done with nautilus itself though.
I doubt the unity team are likely to come up with a dedicated file manager
replacement so it's up to the dash to take the brunt maybe?
I'm not sure just how complex that would be from a coding point of view
though.

On 5 May 2012 23:32, Gregory Merchan <gregory.merchan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been reading this list for a while, but only joined recently because
> I somehow missed that subscription was open. I wish I'd joined earlier,
> because there were times I wanted to offer solutions. I'll have to start by
> offering a problem.
>
> Nautilus has been becoming less useful with each release. One of the most
> recent offenses to all taste and sensibility was the removal of the
> background setting options for folders. I believe emblem settings were
> removed at the same time with the unfortunate side effect of my temporarily
> emblem-marked folders becoming permanently so.
>
> Nautilus was never really complete. It's never had a Miller column mode.
> Its spatial mode didn't have the toolkit or window manager support to work
> properly: missing were at least proper focus handling and something like
> _NET_WM_URL for a title bar path menu. The file property panels were in
> many cases anemic. While emblems allowed some distinction, a tweak to the
> icon color would have allowed distinctions that carried over into the modes
> with smaller icons. The views for collections were never well developed and
> seem to have been dropped altogether. Probably a hundred other things that
> could have been done were not done. It seems headed to becoming one of the
> worst file selection dialogs I've ever seen; I expect a "Close" button in
> the bottom right corner any day now.
>
> Mainstream GNOME has all but abandoned Nautilus in favor of single-purpose
> applications. That could be just an implementation detail, but I don't
> think I've seen the kind of cohesion that you'd get from a good workplace
> shell, like Nautilus could have been. Unity development seems to be
> proceeding on the premise that a file manager is not needed. While files
> and folders may not be the best way for me to organize my work, I really
> can't afford to hire a design and programming team to create the special
> purpose applications I need. I'll have to settle for the UNIX philosophy of
> using good single-purpose tools together to "roll my own" applications, but
> the available desktop environments don't seem to support that. GNUstep
> probably does, but there's too big of a "get it working right" curve for
> me. KDE might, but I can't use it for very long without getting dizzy and
> nauseated from all the roll-over effects. XFCE seems to have broken Gtk+ to
> achieve a look-and-feel on par with Xaw3d; maybe I just tried a buggy
> release? GNOME's single-purpose applications are not the same thing as
> single-purpose tools. And, really, only Unity has gotten rid of all the
> extra menu bars and put the one in the place where it belongs.
>
> As I see it, there's a need for Unity to have it's own file manager. I
> haven't seen any designs for this, at least none I liked enough to
> remember. Is anyone else giving this any thought? What's going to replace
> Nautilus?
>
> Needing at least a proper folder system,
> Greg
>
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