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Re: Replacing Nautilus


just a joke: should the new file manager look like more dolphin than
nautilus? ;)

Il giorno giovedì 10 maggio 2012, Ryan Gauger ha scritto:

> Actually, I think if Nautilus was updated and was a lot more advanced than
> it is now (if this is a GNOME application, we can't do anything). If it was
> updated as I stated, i would be happy for it to stay. IMHO, Dolphin would
> suit Ubuntu, but it's too bad it's a KDE app. Thanks!
> In Christ,
> Ryan
> On May 9, 2012, at 6:24 PM, nick rundy <nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx');>>
> wrote:
>  I agree, Nautilus should go. Frankly, I'd like to see Nautilus go solely
> for the fact that this bug still exists:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552093
> It's only logical to assume that GNOME is abandoning Nautilus--why else
> would they devote resources to those stupid "single purpose applications"
> when Nautilus is so plagued with bugs and needs much improvement?
> The other thing that makes Nautilus unusable is the fact that it doesn't
> display content of mp3 tags when in details view. When I'm
> managing/deleting things that have mp3 tags (like podcasts), the inability
> to read the mp3 tags in Details view makes Nautilus incapable of
> effectively managing a digital walkman or ipod. I'm always forced back to
> the Windows-Explorer file-browser when I need to deal with ipod, walkman
> etc.
> So hopefully a new file-browser will fix Nautilus-bug-552093 and display
> mp3 tags in Details view but keeps all of Nautilus' strengths. Some have
> complained about looks, but I think Nautilus looks good in 12.04. Best it's
> ever looked IMHO.
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:32:39 -0500
> From: gregory.merchan@xxxxxxxxx
> To: unity-design@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Unity-design] Replacing Nautilus
> Hi,
> I've been reading this list for a while, but only joined recently because
> I somehow missed that subscription was open. I wish I'd joined earlier,
> because there were times I wanted to offer solutions. I'll have to start by
> offering a problem.
> Nautilus has been becoming less useful with each release. One of the most
> recent offenses to all taste and sensibility was the removal of the
> background setting options for folders. I believe emblem settings were
> removed at the same time with the unfortunate side effect of my temporarily
> emblem-marked folders becoming permanently so.
> Nautilus was never really complete. It's never had a Miller column mode.
> Its spatial mode didn't have the toolkit or window manager support to work
> properly: missing were at least proper focus handling and something like
> _NET_WM_URL for a title bar path menu. The file property panels were in
> many cases anemic. While emblems allowed some distinction, a tweak to the
> icon color would have allowed distinctions that carried over into the modes
> with smaller icons. The views for collections were never well developed and
> seem to have been dropped altogether. Probably a hundred other things that
> could have been done were not done. It seems headed to becoming one of the
> worst file selection dialogs I've ever seen; I expect a "Close" button in
> the bottom right corner any day now.
> Mainstream GNOME has all but abandoned Nautilus in favor of single-purpose
> applications. That could be just an implementation detail, but I don't
> think I've seen the kind of cohesion that you'd get from a good workplace
> shell, like Nautilus could have been. Unity development seems to be
> proceeding on the premise that a file manager is not needed. While files
> and folders may not be the best way for me to organize my work, I really
> can't afford to hire a design and programming team to create the special
> purpose applications I need. I'll have to settle for the UNIX philosophy of
> using good single-purpose tools together to "roll my own" applications, but
> the available desktop environments don't seem to support that. GNUstep
> probably does, but there's too big of a "get it working right" curve for
> me. KDE might, but I can't use it for very long without getting dizzy and
> nauseated from all the roll-over effects. XFCE seems to have broken Gtk+ to
> achieve a look-and-feel on par with Xaw3d; maybe I just tried a buggy
> release? GNOME's single-purpose applications are not the same thing as
> single-purpose tools. And, really, only Unity has gotten rid of all the
> extra menu bars and put the one in the place where it belongs.
> As I see it, there's a need for Unity to have it's own file manager. I
> haven't seen any designs for this, at least none I liked enough to
> remember. Is anyone else giving this any thought? What's going to replace
> Nautilus?
> Needing at least a proper folder system,
> Greg
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