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[shane lee <shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx>]

I say just replace Nautilus with Dolphin :)

On 10 May 2012 05:48, supernova <supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> just a joke: should the new file manager look like more dolphin than
> nautilus? ;)
> supernova
>
> Il giorno giovedì 10 maggio 2012, Ryan Gauger ha scritto:
>
>> Actually, I think if Nautilus was updated and was a lot more advanced
>> than it is now (if this is a GNOME application, we can't do anything). If
>> it was updated as I stated, i would be happy for it to stay. IMHO, Dolphin
>> would suit Ubuntu, but it's too bad it's a KDE app. Thanks!
>>
>> In Christ,
>> Ryan
>>
>> On May 9, 2012, at 6:24 PM, nick rundy <nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  I agree, Nautilus should go. Frankly, I'd like to see Nautilus go
>> solely for the fact that this bug still exists:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552093
>>
>> It's only logical to assume that GNOME is abandoning Nautilus--why else
>> would they devote resources to those stupid "single purpose applications"
>> when Nautilus is so plagued with bugs and needs much improvement?
>>
>> The other thing that makes Nautilus unusable is the fact that it doesn't
>> display content of mp3 tags when in details view. When I'm
>> managing/deleting things that have mp3 tags (like podcasts), the inability
>> to read the mp3 tags in Details view makes Nautilus incapable of
>> effectively managing a digital walkman or ipod. I'm always forced back to
>> the Windows-Explorer file-browser when I need to deal with ipod, walkman
>> etc.
>>
>> So hopefully a new file-browser will fix Nautilus-bug-552093 and display
>> mp3 tags in Details view but keeps all of Nautilus' strengths. Some have
>> complained about looks, but I think Nautilus looks good in 12.04. Best it's
>> ever looked IMHO.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:32:39 -0500
>> From: gregory.merchan@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: unity-design@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [Unity-design] Replacing Nautilus
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been reading this list for a while, but only joined recently because
>> I somehow missed that subscription was open. I wish I'd joined earlier,
>> because there were times I wanted to offer solutions. I'll have to start by
>> offering a problem.
>>
>> Nautilus has been becoming less useful with each release. One of the most
>> recent offenses to all taste and sensibility was the removal of the
>> background setting options for folders. I believe emblem settings were
>> removed at the same time with the unfortunate side effect of my temporarily
>> emblem-marked folders becoming permanently so.
>>
>> Nautilus was never really complete. It's never had a Miller column mode.
>> Its spatial mode didn't have the toolkit or window manager support to work
>> properly: missing were at least proper focus handling and something like
>> _NET_WM_URL for a title bar path menu. The file property panels were in
>> many cases anemic. While emblems allowed some distinction, a tweak to the
>> icon color would have allowed distinctions that carried over into the modes
>> with smaller icons. The views for collections were never well developed and
>> seem to have been dropped altogether. Probably a hundred other things that
>> could have been done were not done. It seems headed to becoming one of the
>> worst file selection dialogs I've ever seen; I expect a "Close" button in
>> the bottom right corner any day now.
>>
>> Mainstream GNOME has all but abandoned Nautilus in favor of
>> single-purpose applications. That could be just an implementation detail,
>> but I don't think I've seen the kind of cohesion that you'd get from a good
>> workplace shell, like Nautilus could have been. Unity development seems to
>> be proceeding on the premise that a file manager is not needed. While files
>> and folders may not be the best way for me to organize my work, I really
>> can't afford to hire a design and programming team to create the special
>> purpose applications I need. I'll have to settle for the UNIX philosophy of
>> using good single-purpose tools together to "roll my own" applications, but
>> the available desktop environments don't seem to support that. GNUstep
>> probably does, but there's too big of a "get it working right" curve for
>> me. KDE might, but I can't use it for very long without getting dizzy and
>> nauseated from all the roll-over effects. XFCE seems to have broken Gtk+ to
>> achieve a look-and-feel on par with Xaw3d; maybe I just tried a buggy
>> release? GNOME's single-purpose applications are not the same thing as
>> single-purpose tools. And, really, only Unity has gotten rid of all the
>> extra menu bars and put the one in the place where it belongs.
>>
>> As I see it, there's a need for Unity to have it's own file manager. I
>> haven't seen any designs for this, at least none I liked enough to
>> remember. Is anyone else giving this any thought? What's going to replace
>> Nautilus?
>>
>> Needing at least a proper folder system,
>> Greg
>>
>>
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