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Message #09836
Re: Panel Shadow Over Open But Not Focused Applications
On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:17 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Colton Allen wrote on 25/06/12 18:35:
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>> Reference Link
>> <http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/63c76ce1e289641269926a722b0c82bc.png>
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> The panel's shadow should not overlay over non-focused applications.
>> The panel's shadow is used for distinguishing the panel from the
>> desktop. It is not for distinguishing between focused and
>> non-focused applications. Applications already have their own
>> focused and non-focused theme states. The shadow's overlay
>> distracts from my overall experience and presents a hierarchy of
>> focused applications > panel > non-focused applications.
>> Applications should always take the forefront.
>
> I don't think it's true that "The shadow's overlay ... presents a
> hierarchy of focused applications > panel > non-focused applications".
>
> When I look at your screenshot, I see the menu bar and the focused
> window at exactly the same level, and unfocused windows on
> successively lower levels:
>
> you
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> [menu bar] [focused window]
>
> [unfocused window]
>
> [unfocused window]
>
> ====================== desktop =====================
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> When you say "Applications should always take the forefront", that
> would mean the menu bar is below all windows:
>
> you
>
>
>
> [focused window]
>
> [unfocused window]
>
> [unfocused window]
>
> [menu bar]
>
> ====================== desktop =====================
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> But then, what happens when you open a menu from the menu bar? The
> menu appears on top of every window. (If it didn't, you couldn't use
> it whenever there was a window in the same place.) That would make no
> visual sense if the menu was being opened from a menu bar that was
> below every window:
>
> you
>
> __[menu]_____________
> /
> \ [focused window]
> \
> \ [unfocused window]
> \
> \ [unfocused window]
> _[title]__/
> [menu bar]
>
> ====================== desktop =====================
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> But it makes perfect sense if the menu bar is level with the top window:
>
> you
>
>
> _[title]_[menu]_____________
> [menu bar] [focused window]
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> [unfocused window]
>
> [unfocused window]
>
> ====================== desktop =====================
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What's wrong with the way it currently is (in Precise)? I like it that way, and I haven't ever heard people complain about it. If it ain't broken, don't fix it!
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